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I'm so fucking irritable right now, every little thing is annoying me and my chest is tight, I keep clenching my teeth. I'm very familiar with these things, these are how my body is telling me "go smoke a ciggy"

Problem is, I haven't done that for a year and a half. I've had this happen before, sometimes years on into my quittings, its always random and it's always insufferable, like I'm a former psychonaut who accidentally cracked his spine 20 years later. Does this happen to anyone else out there? Any tips? I had a glass of wine but it didn't help take the edge off much

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Does this happen to anyone else out there?

No, you're completely unique and utterly alone in that uniqueness. Tragic, really. RIP.

Any tips?

Is $5 too little?

Okay enough jokes. Yes, every other addict ever gets craving symptoms down the road, but they'll clear up soon.

In rehab, doc taught me something that's remarkably powerful and yet insanely simple: BHALTS. Are you Bored? Hungry? Angry? Lonely? Tired? Stressed? All those make cravings worse and make relapse more likely, especially since we're talking about the thing we used to do to avoid dealing with those feelings properly.

If anything on that checklist checks out, attend to it ASAP. You'll be shocked how quickly the cravings leave your body.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When I was quitting I swapped cigarettes with tea tree oil infused toothpicks to handle the oral fixation part. Helped a lot. I have (thankfully) never experienced what you describe and haven’t been a smoker for about 7 years now. Maybe get some toothpicks to nom on if it happens again.

Edit: somehow forgot to add “never” to that third sentence. Sorry for any confusion. Hope you can conquer these spells of cravings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I smoked about 20 a day for nearly 20 years, and gave up the stinkies about 12 years ago. Switched to vaping and then gave up that and nicotine about 8 years ago.

Even after all this time, about once a year my brain tells me it’s time for a smoke break. I don’t think I’m craving a fag, just the downtime and doing something else with my hands/brain/time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hey OP, how ya doing? Try any advice? Anything help?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Lol thank you, I just waited it out and read comments to pass the time. This happens once or twice a year and it'll probably be a good while before it happens again, appreciate the support though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I've had people who quit 20 years ago say to me they still get random cravings but not often. I think it's just something some people get.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I smoked daily for about ten years. I got off the cigarettes and smoked e-cigs (no one called it vaping, then) for another year or two, then quit cold turkey without much issue and only the occasional minor relapse thanks to my significant other continuing the habit for a few years after I quit before she quit, too. That was about fifteen years ago, and I don't crave them at all anymore. The smell is actually a huge turn off for me, now. I can't believe I ever thought I was fooling anyone into not knowing I was a smoker. That shit seeps into everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Only sometimes in specific cases. At a bbq, after Xmas dinner, sitting by the campfire etc. other than that, no cravings. Do dream of smoking though...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Months absolutely. Years, very rarely. But wild that it still happens like 8 years later. Even though I rather dislike the smell now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This is my experience. It's fading with time. There are certain situational triggers, and sometimes out-of-the blue cravings, but they become less frequent and easier to ignore, slowly, as time goes on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

No. I actually find the idea of doing it again pretty disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Been clenching my teeth for about two years now, I started when I quit smoking. I actually had to get a splint (mouthgard) because I'm fucking my teeth.

So I quit because I was about to become a dad, a home-owner, and also because ciggies here are about 30 usd a pack that doesn't go well with having a family and and paying a mortgage. But mostly health, I need to be around as long as possible for my family.

I don't think about it nor I miss it most of the times, but every time someone takes a long drag in a movie, I just start salivating and I wish I had one in my hand.

Accidentally I temporarily became a smoker again for a week or so just recently. Wife took the kids away for a few days and I was given some weed, I bought two packs of ciggies with the intention that once they are gone that's it. They are gone now and i am again a non smoker but I thoroughly enjoyed them. Unlike other people on this thread I LOVE the smell, and I really really like smoking. What I don't like is to have an addiction, the fact that they kill you, and the cost.

As for suggestions, nothing that gives immediate relief but microdosing mushrooms really helped me before (I quit many times before, longest i think was 7 years not smoking)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Quit coffin nails five years ago after 15 years. Maybe a couple times a month after work I think about how good a cigarette would be right now

Except maybe ten percent of those times I'll actually bum one from a coworker and it's never ever ever as good as I imagine it'll be in the moment. I bum them less and less because it keeps getting harder to pretend it'll be as good as it used to

So in essence I guess I actually quit pretty effectively overall

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Once a junkie, always a junkie. At least for me with nicotine. The cravings have never gone away. I just learn to live with them and not think about them too often. It gets easier with time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Almost 3 years after quiting a heavy 26 years habit. I quit cold turkey.

Currently being forced to move having no income and no social circle and family is distant.

Super proud I haven't broken yet. I want one ALL THE DAMN TIME.

I use physical exercise to help me get through my cravings.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

If a random internet stranger's comment means anything to you... keep it up dude!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Quit for 7 years. Didn't miss it for a second after the first week. Starting again was the worst mistake of my life. Hold fast. You'll regret it if you go back. Quitting a second time seems much harder.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

On the contrary, i hate the smell way more than my have-never-smoked peers.

I quit cold-turkey ages ago, after a decade as a pack-a-day smoker.

I never missed cigarettes, never really craved them except when binge drinking. But i quit that too, mostly. By the time I quit, I absolutely hated the smell and taste, so that helped a lot. It caused me to just avoid places where I'd encounter lots of smokers. Bans in restaurants and bars helped a lot.

edit: one key being that when I quit, I didn't like smoking. I didn't want to be a smoker anymore. So I stopped thinking of myself as a smoker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You probably don't hate the smell more, nonsmokers have just learned to be polite about it.

Dated a smoker once. I love the man, but kissing him was like licking ashes. A major turn off. I never let on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Right, my lived experience isnt valid because of your lived experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Agree. Quit twice, the 2nd time was real bad. Now I am a stereotypical hardcore ex smoker. Get away from me with that stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Not random moments, but intense anxiety is a trigger decades later. And it's not just traumatic stuff, but positive anxiety like first dates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe do shrooms somewhere its legal? Just once has been shown to do wonders for kicking addiction

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Done plenty my man, unless I get a guided therapy session with the specific aim of cessation I doubt one more time dosing is gonna do much

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Meth is great for stopping nicotine. You won't want nicotine when you're high on meth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Better try a few more, just in case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Quit cold turkey in 2017 after 30 years of pack a day. More if drinking. Tried vaping, just ended up being a way to smoke more.Got a gnarly case of pneumonia and wadded up everything I had left for smoking and threw it all in the trash. No cravings anymore but I still dream about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I feel that, 2015 or so when I was about 21 I got a spontaneous pneumothorax (basically a popped lung) everyone has these weak spots on their lungs called blebs, but I had just the right mixture, being white, being tall, being skinny, being male, and being a smoker, to be high risk for those blebs getting too weak and rupturing. Literally happened 3 times before in a row due to complications and my dumb ass still went back to vaping a year or so later. Did stop smoking pot though, so that's something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Interesting, also I learned a new word (contraindications: something that makes taking a drug inadvisable)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Alright so I quit vaping the Easy Way, and they explained to me that nicotine withdrawals are pretty much entirely psychological. It's the "I want a vape, I can't have one, AHHHHH!" feeling. Once you realize that you actually don't want a vape because it does absolutely nothing for you and is complete waste of time, money, and energy, you won't get irritable because you don't want to vape. The physical withdrawal symptom- there is just one- is just an empty hungry feeling, and it goes away entirely after about 72 hours.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

My grandfather quit smoking after 70 years (he started when he was 6) and lived another 30 years. Apparently he would dream about smoking till he died, and they never smelled nasty to him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I quit more than a decade ago now. I still occasionally get a craving for one. I don't get the same physically reactions that you listed. Mostly get the cravings when I'm stressed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I do, the longer it's been the shorter they are (almost 10 years now). My trigger is seeing someone, usually in a TV or movie, take that long, exaggerated drag.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Oooh. That's a big one. I'll be fine and suddenly halfway through a movie: "Smoke break?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

It gets less and less but will never go away. The frequency and intensity of craving diminish, but it can still sneak up on you.

I had one occasion where I spent some time in a smoky environment, and didn't smoke myself. Next day the cravings where back full blow, through secondary smoke.

So what I do now if I get cravings is think back to how long ago it's been since I've had them, is nice to feel those horrible clutches lose their grasp over you. It does take dedication and time though and you're never truly free of them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I quit Easter Sunday, 1996. I don’t have any cravings when I’m awake, but I have dreams where I’m pulling a packet of cigarettes from my pocket, buying cigarettes, smoking, noticing that I only have a few left in my packet. Something’s going on subconsciously, not sure if it’s cravings or something else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I have dreams like this too. In mine, I've always been coerced by friends to "just have 1" and then I do and I feel really guilty about it. Then I wake up feeling guilty for something I didn't even do. I'm glad it's only happening in my dreams!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I did in the first 3 or so years, but now I don't have any cravings at all. I'm now 17 years on from quitting and it has gotten better over time.

I found spite a great tool for keeping emotional investment. The tobacco companies are all steeped in slavery, abuse, scientific fraud, and general indifference to the suffering of others. Those companies are trying very hard to get kids addicted, to insulate themselves from legal accountability, and to stop governments from phasing smoking out. They are evil if that word is going to mean anything and if I am going to be able to do anything about them it is withholding my business.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes but then I remember the taste and the craving vanishes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Weird. I loved the taste. Even a decade after I quit for good, I still love the smell. I don't get the cravings at all though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

i often have cravings, especially when i'm angry or drinking beer, then i remembering myself how double hangover feels like and whole this stench

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