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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

I don't think they'll be much help without the Adderall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

As someone who takes Adderall I’m less worried about that than about him attempting to reschedule it to I from II

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Pol Pot: why not go with the OG version?

[–] [email protected] 107 points 8 hours ago (26 children)

I fucking HATE these clickbait headlines. Read the dang article and look at the quotes:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities," he said during the broadcast. (emphasis added)

RFK is a total whackjob, but it's pretty clear he's talking about some kind of voluntary "farm therapy" (which probably isn't demonstrably effective anyway) and not a concentration camp.

PLEASE we got enough bombastic language and clickbait over the Biden years. There are PLENTY of things wrong with the actual quote above without taking us into clickbait territory.

Let's criticize him on the grounds of being scientific but proposing very un-scientific actions. Let's criticize him for proposing ineffective solutions, but please, focus on his ACTUAL statement instead of trying to fluff it into some goddamn headline.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, totally voluntary. With barbed wire, guards, prison gangs, and court orders. Just like the reform schools for teenagers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You should go write for futurism.com.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Time to add futurism.com to my block list. What a useless rag.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

100% They are part of the death of journalism. Inaccurate, hyped headlines that disagree with the body of the article. Designed to get "engagement" and not to inform. Fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Stop fucking sane washing him. "If they want to" is a dubious statement coming from anyone in this authoritarian administration.

The fact that he brings up "reparenting", it seems fairly obvious that this is going to be done by authority of the state. He's talking about taking people's kids away from them if they medicate their children as recommended by their doctors.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago

Stop fucking sane washing him

You'll notice I called him a "total whackjob". I do not say he is sane. However, I wish to criticize what he ACTUALLY said instead of some bombastic caricature of his plan. In no way do I support or endorse RFK, but let's be accurate with our criticism.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's great Trump won't last a day in the labor camp.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

"Labor camps for thee, not for me." -Trump

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck that.

I strongly dislike how the argument hinges on the very movable goalpost of "illegal" drugs. It has this awful moralizing "protect the kids while we destroy privacy", vibe to it.

At first I though this would require an end-run on HIPAA, but all they really need to do is re-schedule a bunch of therapeutic drugs. Or ignore the FDA entirely and just enforce a ban by edict (somehow) through a different agency. I don't think we've ever seen federal agencies openly disagree like that before, but I think it's possible. Also: big pharma may have something to say about all this.

Like a lot of the nonsense coming from this cabinet, it'll test the crap out of state's rights.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I am not fan of RFK or any of this incoming administration, but I have to admit....those are going to be the most productive camps in the entire world! 🤣

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago

When it comes to the brainworm guy - if he really plans on banning vaccines - is he trying to kill off all the old people? Is he trying to kill off all the children?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

What the actual fuck.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago

what the hell. staying in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 hours ago

So they're just already saying the "camps" part out loud, eh? I guess when you have Hitler's playbook, you can move faster than Hitler did.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is part of some rural grift facilities which probably started with "trouble teens". In recent years I've seen reports of these "farms" for "distressed" women. It's usually a place with Ranch in the name. Example: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/18/the-christian-maternity-ranch-in-texas-is-a-disaster-in-the-making/

Permaculture farms, for example, are already well known for relying on abusive work conditions. See Joel Salatin:

https://medium.com/permaculture-3-0/fall-of-a-hero-f9ac80a08c0c

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Are these the same people that abduct teens at night and bring them to these camps where they die of dehydration?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Those are more like wilderness survival training, except nobody in charge has any wilderness survival training of their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

He mentioned SSRIs in the article. Now I'm imagining a bunch of PTSD infantry combat vets laughing their ass off at the instructor.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If he comes for my antidepressants he can haul me off but he can't make me cooperate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

It's going to be like those troubled teenager reform schools. They will torture non compliance.

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