Two reminders
1:it's pronounced "Rick FUCKING Berman",
B- FUCK RICK FUCKING BERMAN.
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Two reminders
1:it's pronounced "Rick FUCKING Berman",
B- FUCK RICK FUCKING BERMAN.
I always preferred Rick "Everything He Touches Turns to Shit" Berman. He has the reverse Midas touch. Everything he touches spontaneously transforms into human feces.
Came to thank me, brought a cake, ceremoniously?
It doesn't sound that bad...
This was what I was thinking. If she put quotes around "thank" and used unceremoniously instead, the post would read closer to what it sounds like she intended.
Edit: I only just noticed a couple of things: first, this post is five years old. Second, she responded with full-throated support of Rick. So despite the fact that he is pretty well understood as a POS around most Trek communities these days, Denise doesn't seem to want to be lumped in with that.
Section 31’s ability to insist that they didn’t “plant” a commander into the Romulan empire even decades later is rather impressive.
Even when there’s documented evidence proving otherwise.
Is this related to OP?
Or you just have a Romulan Empire conspiracy bone to pick?
His story smells like self-aggrandizing bullshit. If he got close enough to any actress to remove something from her costume, someone should have hit him with the cake. That's not your job, so don't touch the talent, asshole.
You know, with how great and progressive Star Trek is... Uh... The older Trek, mind you... I often wonder how anyone like Berman could even make something like that.
How could Star Trek continue under Berman and still be Star Trek?
Look closer and you'll find that Berman's run wasn't as progressive as you might remember. He repeatedly vetoed attempts to write stories about homosexuality, continued Roddenberry's thing about putting women in skimpy outfits, and so on. TOS was very progressive for the '60s, but TNG, VOY, and ENT were significantly less progressive for their time.
Never meet your heroes. Joss Whedon, JK Rowling, Orson Scott Card... all the horrible people making super influencial content that so essentially stands in opposition to their horrid real life behavior. I just don't get it either...
The more I learn about this guy the less I like him
I don't know shit about him, fill me in?
Sexist piece of shit who liked to step all over anyone he perceived as "beneath" him (everyone) and if you've ever thought to yourself "given the rest of the show, why would THAT be a thing? It feels gross and entire groups of people would feel marginalized by this" while watching it, it was probably a Berman Special. Like Seven's.... "uniform"...
Also from what I understand, racist. Like the ferengi.
When your ego is so huge that it doesn't even occur to you that the person you're lying about will almost certainly see and publicly expose your lie.
Queerphobic, misogynistic asshole. I'm glad she called him out.
Idk much about him, but I keep reading here and there that he was terrible. How did he manage to write Star Trek episodes if he was those things?
You can be brilliant in some ways while being useless or a POS in other ways.
Steve Jobs was an excellent salesman and marketer. He was an awful father and thought that a fruit-only diet would cure pancreatic cancer. Then, when he realised his curable cancer became incurable because of inaction, he jumped the organ donor queue (because apparently in the US money lets you do that), which not only didn't help him, but also likely killed someone else who it could've saved.
Richard Stallman is an excellent steward of open source software and user freedom in software, and he has been very prescient of the shit that would ultimately come from proprietary software. But he is also a major creep to women and a staunch defender of paedophilia and bestiality.
Someone I knew, before she passed away, was enormously selfless. Gave everything she had to others, fostered a lot of children who all grew up to be great people. Lived with almost no money because she preferred to spend it helping other people, was a big pusher of LGBT rights in the 80s and 90s, helped run a centre that helped HIV victims, never spoke up about the good she was doing because she preferred to keep it a secret... was (astounding to me) enormously racist.
People are complicated.
That last one speaks to how some people try and redeem themselves despite their flaws. We're not all cut and dry. You can still be a good person, even if you're flawed, provided the good you do outweighs the the bad. I would also throw a caveat in there, in that you're actively trying to address your faults, too. Doesn't do much good if you're burning crosses and houses to the ground, and then taking in the resulting foster children lol.
Decent people can write stories about murderous characters who do not reflect their values.
Terrible people can write stories about decent people who do not reflect their values.
Believe it, but does anyone have links?
It's going to be hard to verify every detail about a personal interaction on set, but we can say Bermann's version doesn't match what is verifiable. The shows were shot out of order from how they were aired. Crosby's chronologically shot final scene was in Symbiosis, where she's seen waving goodbye in the cargo bay.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Symbiosis_(episode)#Cast_and_characters
I mean, it seems pretty reasonable that he might have remembered the wrong episode, 30 years later
Remembering the wrong episode would be one thing, although even that dampens his tone of a "cherished memory."
He completely invented that she gave it to him, instead of him taking it from her. That also drastically shifts the tone.
The story changes from "a dear friend gave me a gift on her onscreen death that I cherished for decades" to "I took a one of a kind memento from someone on their last day at work on something iconic and kept it for myself. I stared at it for years."
Yeah, that is the part that matters.
Amazing.
She's great, he's a dick.
Set phasers to burrrrrrrrn.
I wouldn't use any setting .... I'd just use the phaser pistol as a blunt object and beat him with it
Rick Berman, still a piece of shit.
Fuck you Rick Berman. Wait, what is it with Ricks?
who's the other Rick thats a POS?
Rick McCallum, producer for the prequels. It's from Mr Plinkett red letter media for the prequels and TNG movies.
Come to my web zone and I'll send you some pizza rolls
The context was a Rick who worked with Lucas on the prequels. I dunno if he was a POS, but he was one of the guys who couldn't tell George that his ideas were bad.
Rick, as in Rick & Morty, maybe?