He's plainly asking for Russian interference on his behalf.
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Donald, you bitch, you are the biggest coward. Go off yourself for humanity's sake
I know a Ukrainan born US citizen with a significant amount of family still living in Ukraine who is also a Trump supporter. He hates Russia and wants Ukraine to maintain independence. I asked him a couple of weeks ago what he thought would happen to Ukraine if Trump was reelected and he said Ukraine would probably be left to fend for themselves. This statement did not come with remorse or condemnation, it was delivered in the same way you would describe the winner of a sporting event. A simple statement of fact.
I don't know how to respond to that kind of thinking. If the understanding that your vote might lead to the death of your family members doesn't break through the political polarization in this country and make you reconsider then I don't think anything will.
I was going to say that maybe the concept was too abstract for him, so the thought of losing family members to war didn't even cross his mind. It could never happen to him, right?
But then again, Ukraine has been at war with Russia for some time now. Surely he knows people who have perished in the war?
Did he give you a reason why he supports Trump? Is it maybe a misogyny thing?
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I'm trans, and I'm not the only one in my family.
My Dad claims he votes Republican for tax purposes.
Your dad is a cheap asshole who is making your country worse by doing so. Please let him know
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Gobble gobble
I keep upgrading what kind of leverage putin has on dolt45. I'm now pretty sure trump must have choked his male prostitute of the night to death on camera.
You really think he has the strength to choke someone to death with those tiny hands?
Smothered to death, maybe.
Fuck that, but also notice "Ukraine is not Ukraine anymore". This is a dangerous part of propaganda.
People will rage against the headline and who knows if he will eventually back track on that, but he already sold the underlying message without any serious risk of backlash.
“Any deal, even the worst deal, would have been better than what we have right now.
And this just shows how uninformed Trump is.
- Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took Crimea! Ukraine did not attack.
- Russia then invade in Luhansk and Donbas and illegally annex both regions in 2022
So what deal is Trump talking about that would have left Ukraine alone? 2014? Nope. 2022? Nope.
The only deal Putin is willing to accept is total control over the sovereign nation of Ukraine.
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Ah. Another sterling strategy from Donald "Neville" Trump.
Very beta
Of course he does. He is his puppet.
trump embodies pretty much every single negative adjective you can possibly apply to a human being
Alternate headline: ~~Trump~~ Neville Chamberlain suggests giving ~~Vladimir Putin~~ Adolf Hitler whatever he wants
Comparing Trump to Chamberlain is a pretty big disservice to Chamberlain. History at least shows that Chamberlain was correct about Britain's ability to combat German aggression, and his appeasement bought Britain the time to properly arm and ready themselves for war.
Trump's just a sniveling sycophant who wants to give Daddy Putin everything he wants because he hopes Putin will be proud of him and treat him as a big man.
I could have sworn at one point Russia claimed to have annexed certain parts of Ukraine due to ethnic Russians, very similar to Hitlers Sudetenland claims.
Central Ukraine suppressing russian language\culture in Donbas, Luhansk and Crimea were their talking points right before 2014.
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Appeasement doesn't work. Appeasement never works. It didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with Put-ler. This piece of shit is a useful idiot and I'm saddened that quite a few people today lap this shit up and see this as the best path forward. Ukraine may be scarred now but they can and will rebuild when they win this war. Slava Ukraini
a useful idiot
Useful idiot has specific meaning. It is someone who is so dumb that you can convince him to betray his country for free and he does believe he is doing right thing.
I am pretty sure this piece of shit is getting paid.
Interesting. I learned something new today. Thanks for sharing! And no doubt he's been bought/getting paid. Everything about him screams Russian asset.
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Appeasement can work, just not in the obvious way. It's like throwing steaks at a pack of hungry wolves. It won't slow them for long, but it might give you enough time to find the shells, and load the shotgun.
What Trump is doing doesn't even rise to the level of appeasement. He's just begging like a whipped dog to his master.
That's a damn good analogy. Appease for long enough to grab a big stick. My original thought on Dementia Don saying just "give Putin what he wants" felt to me like a "if we do this now he won't ask for more later and the war will stop" kinda thing. As I read it now I'm willing to bet you're more correct. There is no nuance here. The orange cheeto is angling for praise from his master and dictators the world over. How fucking dumb
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Why don't we just give up, Pardner?
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Trumps plan to “solve russias war against ukraine” is to “give up”.
Is this the man you want leading your country?
Imagine FDR “solving ww2” by surrendering to japan and the nazis
This was his strategy in Afghanistan too!
Arguably that was always going to end with a Taliban takeover, but we could've done that without giving them a leg up.
No need to imagine when we have history to reference.
To his credit, Chamberlain wasn't as bad as he's made out. When he implemented his policy of appeasement, Britain was not actually capable of meaningfully resisting nazi Germany. He basically brought time to bring Britain back to a war footing. When it became obvious to the public that war was coming, he fell on his sword. This cleared the way for Churchill to take charge, without significant infighting. He also inherited Britain on a far better war footing, and even then it was a close thing.
Basically, Chamberlain knew his plan wouldn't work long term. He took one "for king and country", likely knowing how it would be perceived. I can at least respect him for that.
I'm not arguing it was or wasn't right for Britain position at the time. Just making the point we know, from direct history, a policy of appeasement does nothing to stop further advancement.
It did though. Hitler could have gone after Britain and france earlier. However, he thought Britain was staying out of things, and so played more safe and slow. This brought Britain the time it needed. Hitler honestly didn't expect Britain to declare war on him, and that slowed his assault on that front. If WW2 had gone serious even 6 months earlier, Britain would have been in serious trouble. The RAF would have collapsed under the luftwaffa, and WW2 would have been very different. Appeasement traded lives for time.
Don't get me wrong, it was a dick move, and threw others under the tanks tracks to save Britain. It's also worth noting that this is not what Trump is trying to do. He's just being a boot licker to the most powerful person who will talk to him. Appeasement at least had a positive goal.
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"how do you remove your hand from a lion's mouth?"
"very carefully."
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.
- Will Rogers
"Don't worry, men—I have a plan."
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"TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT!"
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Of course the perennial misbehaver thinks that misbehavior should be rewarded.
OF COURSE HE DOES