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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Never read manga, watched some anime. I don't care for the art style, at all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Does anybody dislike anime and manga?

No, everybody in the world likes anime and manga. Or they're indifferent to it at worst.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Nope. Just the over-indulging fans.

I don't identify myself as an Otaku and I'm not going to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I dislike how common certain tropes are, how overacted it is, and how formulaic most of the stories are. I also hate Shounen and its focus on which guy is strongest. It's boring to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

No disrespect to Toriyama-san, but this was Dragonball Z to a tee.

"THIS ENEMY IS THE STRONGEST EVER! GOKU ACHIEVES HIS STRONGEST FORM!"

"NO! WAIT! THIS ENEMY OUT OF NO WHERE IS SUDDENLY THE STRONGEST AND GOKU'S FORM IS 1,000X STRONGER!"

Shounen anime is just junkfood anime, like Bleach. It's got lots of filler, the main guy gets a hundred forms, all stronger than the last, they'll pull some bullshit out of their ass to win the day and give people lots of 'GOTCHA' moments. And a lot of the characters are rule-34 prone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I do.. I can't quite put my finger on why though. Non-english anime are unwatchable for me. I do not like to have to read the subtitles, as I sometimes dose-out.

But even English animes are rare for me. The only one I enjoy is one punch man. I have tried many others but they just don't click with me..

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Every time I get downvoted for pointing out the rampant and casual pedophilia plaguing anime, I hate weebs a little bit more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

That's why I don't like most anime. There are some gems that don't stoop that low, but the bar is ridiculously low for such a high rate of not meeting it

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This. I don't partake in anything anime related and I'm mostly neutral on it as a whole, but the prevalence of pedophilia and related themes is highly disturbing as is the lack of pushback against it from the community.

And, that being said, the people who make anime their entire personality are also... difficult to be around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

No joke. They're the kind of people that have to over-dramatize every damn thing and have explosive reactions to anything.

Like calm the fuck down, you're not in an anime show.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

I don’t blame you, fellow Lemming.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Yes I despise it, I hate the influence it's had on making everything over sexualized and cliched

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I don't know that I dislike it necessarily, but I'm definitely not into it. I used to watch some stuff on Adult Swim on Cartoon Network when I still lived in the US. I don't think I've actively watched anything since I lived in Japan. I think all I've watched has been sitting next to my wife when she as watching something (jujutsu kaisen or something like that, IIRC).

I tried to read manga for Japanese practice, but I generally got bored with anything I could mostly read and put off by anything I actually wanted or needed to as it meant so much dictionary time (for day-to-day stuff, I can mostly read what I need and I speak Japanese at home, so my level in that regard is decent). An example is wanting to get my HAM license in Japan. So much legal stuff is required for study as well as all the various terms for voltage, frequency, etc. in Japanese. I had a bit more success reading a textbook to get my hunter license for trapping, but it was still quite tough (and I didn't finish since, as it turns out, the place I moved to doesn't have as many critters eating my fields as I thought it might).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Plenty of people do do that, yes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't get it. So I guess I don't really like it, but am I missing something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Not really. I find horror movies boring because the characters always do dumb shit to get in trouble.

If you don't like something, you don't miss anything.

The only animes I watched till the end are Full Metal Alchemist and Shaman King, because they have a good length.

I liked JoJo Bizzare Adventures at first, but it got long and boring after a season and a half.

I tried to watch a lot of popular anime, but I can't stand fillers, which 99% of anime have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I could handle season one of One Punch Man because it was almost making fun of traditional anime tropes; here's this average unassuming guy who is more powerful than all the "superheros" (which on its own is an anime cliche, but OPM didn't have a destiny or anything tired like that).

Sword Art Online had a cool premise that they used for all of about 6 episodes? Before moving to a new world and while that could work in a long-format short-run series it turned me off quickly. Why bother building a world you're going to abandon so quickly? Plus the main characters started doing the "we're prepubescent but we're going to act like our love is written in the stars" cliche that only ever worked when Shakespeare did it, and even then only worked once.

I even didn't like Cowboy Bebop, at least not as much as everyone assured me I would since I'm a Firefly fanatic. The only thing the two shows have in common are that it takes place in space and the crew is a ragtag bunch of misfits. I was finally starting to get into it once the whole crew was gathered, only to have it end two-ish episodes later. I suppose ending too soon is another thing it has in common with Firefly, but Bebop felt like a completed story.

I could spend all day listing all the cliches I don't like in animes, but the art style and being in a foreign language (and culture, so many settings, jokes, and subtleties go unrecognized and therefore unappreciated by me) means the barrier to entry is already so high that it has to be an absolute 12/10 universally loved show for me to even consider it, and even that doesn't always work.

I won't yuck someone's yum (not to their face at least) but I've given up on trying to figure out why anime is popular outside Japan.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

Yesterday I drove by Düsseldorf, which is Germany's most Weeaboo city, and they had this ugly fucking mural at their train station.

I don't mind most anime/manga based media, but media about anime/manga makes me really uncomfortable. Defining yourself by the fact you like Anime is just a lot weirder than defining yourself by the fact you like JJBA or InitalD.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Most of it because it's never ending. 1000 episodes? Fuck me that's just an animated soap opera.

Tell your story and fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I am very selective with it. I like a few here and there. I can't always watch it or follow it all the time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd say I'm just uninterested, not dislike. The part I hate is when I see people dedicate their whole life into them and fail to function as a normal human.

Vtubers on the other hand, I absolutely despise. They are basically YouTubers/streamers with an anime character and get much more views for no reason. I guess that's free market for ya

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Same.

I don't hate it, I'm simply indifferent to it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Used to love anime but now that I'm older I dislike it. Still love reading manga, just hate the high pitch annoying ass voice for every female character. A few anime's don't do it and those ones I still love

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm an artist and I used to draw a lot as a kid. I naturally adore the medium, but most anime is weeb/otaku fanfare and I find obnoxious. I keep a look out for the gems that occasionally come around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

One of the gems I've found is to your eternity. Still has some annoying ass anime voices but it's a really unique story and almost every episode will make me cry no matter how many times I watch it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yes! Me I hate it so much

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I dislike most of it like I dislike most of any other media be it literature, cinema or music. That being said I can't stand western anime like Avatar and whatnot, also Marvel and DC comics, tried a lot of this shit, it's pretty bad.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The only anime I think is good is studio ghibli, ghost in the shell, cowboy bebop, and similar. That’s top notch. Other stuff that like super giggly is uninteresting. Manga reminds me to stop browsing /all and go back to /home.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As others have said, it's another form of media. I enjoy a good story and good characters and there are some anime series that are incredible and wouldn't work in live action for a number of reasons.

And as someone from the west, the cultural influences can often add story elements that would be outside of our norm of storytelling.

That said, there are so many genres of anime that do not interest me in the slightest. Just as there are many series of other shows that don't interest me in the slightest. There are many book series I have read that I would much prefer an animated adaption of. As an example, an animated adaption of Game of Thrones would have been really interesting, as they could have stuck closer to the outlandish elements of the source material, and not had to worry about casts aging or moving on to other projects.

Having grown up with Pokemon, Dragon Ball, Digimon, and many others, there is also a nostalgic element to this as well, which is why we will be seeing anime (and animated media in general) increase in popularity along with the generational shift in society.

To sum up, people that dislike anime usually fall into categories:

  1. Animated series/films aren't to their tastes. This is perfectly fine, as long as they also feel the same about western animated series/films.

  2. The stories don't interest them. Maybe the cultural influences I noted before are just a little too far outside of their comfort zone, and they understandably haven't actively gone out of their way to find something that does.

  3. They've never watched anime, wont give it a chance, and consider it childish and immature. Closed minded and elitist (in my opinion).

But most importantly, all media is subjective, and someone else's personal opinion should not matter in the slightest to what you enjoy or don't. The Internet has given far too many people the false idea that their opinions actually hold any value.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can't say I agree with your first point. There are almost as many animation styles as there are animation studios. I don't see any hypocrisy in liking the style of the Simpsons or Pixar but not liking anime style.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I see what you mean, but at the same time, there is a wealth of animation styles within Anime series too. Some as that popular anime style that most associate it with, others that are a lot more western cartoon influenced in their style.

I would argue that CGI, pixar, dreamworks, etc is far enough away. But the Simpsons is a traditional cartoon, and it likely wouldn't be too difficult to find an anime that is stylistically similar within the massive archive.

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