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[–] [email protected] 2 points 53 minutes ago

I usually just use the website in a mobile browser as I generally avoid websites that require an app. It's an unnecessary waste of space when the website could just work in a mobile browser but some developers, whether it's because of incompetence or it's actually intentional, either limit what features are available in mobile browsers or just make the website not work at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I have too many fucking apps on my phone already. I'd much rather use websites.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I try to use mobile web versions saved as an app shortcut. When you install a real app it usually comes with a bunch of permissions needed and trackers collecting your info in the background. Bad for privacy and battery life. Classyshark helps scan the trackers and a firewall can disable wifi access on app by app basis but thats a lot more trouble than just not installing a bunch if junk apps.The exception is that I trust open source software from fdroid with a public github repo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Mostly mobile web for everything, apps for a couple of restaurants/groceries and for tickets to concerts because that is unavoidable at this time.

For Lemmy, website.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I use a lot of web apps on my iPhone. Like for memos the moememos app adds nothing…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Mix of both. Messengers, Mastodon and YouTube, mostly apps (except when I want to listen to YT in the background). Maps and games, also apps. But for Lemmy I use the web frontend because I haven't yet found a convincing app and the web frontend is good enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

If its open source and privacy respecting then I'll use the app. If its not and I have to use the service then website

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Uhaul wanted me to download their app to return a truck after hours. I will at most use uhaul once a year, but I'm not moving more frequently than that. In cases like that I'll use websites. Same goes for restaurants and other stores

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I've recently cleaned up my Android phone and switched from apps to websites where possible and it's a surprisingly good experience!

Most apps these days seem to be web browser wrappers ether way. Firefox on Android allows to turn any page into a self contained instance (like an app) which is very convenient. I can also install Ublock Origin to block ads and other firefox addons which is amazing. In particular I use addon called Stylus to adjust styling of some pages.

It definitely feels like we're going full circle now: early desktop apps -> web browser -> smartphones launch native apps -> back to web browser The only thing holding back web browsers is Apple purposefully breaking the web to protect their 30% appstore cut.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Just note that Firefox for android tabs are not isolated from each other, but they're sharing the same process, thus technically can access all of the other objects in Firefox′s memory. You should consider using mulch for these web-native apps style usage.

Can't wait for fission to come to mobile to solve all this mess...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Apps I can't handle websites on my phone

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

I hate apps with a passion, desktop version is almost always better unless it's a shit website like tiktok or "x".

YouTube desktop has always been better than mobile for instance.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago

Do y'all

No, I don't y'all

😉

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

I very rarely adopt apps anymore, most of what I do with my phone is in Firefox or the default utilities.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago

Websites wherever possible.

I will fight the dark patterns trying to manipulate me into using the app also.

If I cannot do anything without the app I will not use said service.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago

Something I use infrequently: website 10/10 times

It’s only if I use something almost daily that I’ll install an app for it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Apps if I use the website enough to justify it. I have apps for all my favorite fast food places so I can order ahead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I don't use websites on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

The website, I prefer to switch on the desktop site than using an app. Only exceptions? FOSS apps that are on F-droid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

I generally prefer the app, in most scenarios. But it depends on what the platform is. Some will just perform better in the app because the app is the main focus of the platform, but others are just a web wrapper for the mobile site and just eat up space on your device for no discernible reason.

I find that it's also generally easier to sandbox permissions on a per-app basis than a per-website basis. So even though a lot of times the app is meant to be a vector to harvest more data out of the user, in the right setting it can actually be more secure than just using the website. But that's very situational.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

If what I want to do is no different on an app than on the website through a browser, I just use the browser.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Usually apps.

Right now I'm trying Instagram and Facebook as website shortcuts. I watch reels on Instagram and people send event invites on Facebook (birthdays and whatnot) but I don't like having them installed. The reels scrolling fucks up very often but otherwise it's fine.

In the end I don't know why I'm bothering, since I use messenger with a few people and I can't seem to use that without an app (or going to my PC every time).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

since I use messenger with a few people and I can’t seem to use that without an app

If your goal is privacy, you could (if you are using android) create a "work profile" and put those apps there, and they can't access the data on your main profile.

I use an app called Shelter for this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

App if I use it often, website for everything else. The UI is usually better in the app. Many mobile websites are a pain to use. Plus I have a system-wide ad blocker

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Whatever is more convenient.

Generally speaking I try to look for the app first, because that's the most optimized experience for mobile, while the browser version is often not very smooth. But apps lately are getting so awful that the browser version is better.

E.g. YouTube is in the browser for me, because Firefox + uBlock combo is the only way to avoid ads.

As ads today are to be avoided due to privacy and security reasons, I got rid of all apps that are flagged as "contains ads" in Google Play store.

Just a funny story from a few months ago: one day when I opened LinkedIn, an unusual screen welcomed me, that I couldn't jump over: I had to pick where I wanted ads to appear without the LinkedIn app, with two choices: either above private messages or in-between posts. I deleted the app instead. Then I wanted to use it in the browser, but it didn't work in Firefox, the website just froze after login. So yeah. No more LinkedIn for me. Sometimes I log in on desktop to see if there's anything, but it's getting so rare, basically there's nothing to see there.

So if neither is convenient to use, then I use neither.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Only for mail, F-Droid/other app stores, yt (because revanced and newpipe), Mastodon, banking, and Wattpad. Otherwise, give me the god damn website.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

There is no way I'd use Lemmy with the web app if I didn't know about:

  • Summit

  • Voyager

  • Boost

  • Eternity

  • Sync

Clients... The same could be said for more apps (like Reddit, Feedly etc) so yeah I think I am more in the mobile apps, aside from extremely annoying ones, such as Amazon, Ebay, AliExpress etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

I really hate it when they make the website unusable to force you to use their app. So for that reason alone I’ll never download the yelp app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm of mixed opinions on it generally but like the web-apps where you go to a site and then 'install' it. My mixed thoughts are because it seems to only work in chromium browsers rather than Firefox, but it's a nice way to get a custom configured app on the spot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You can do it on firefox on android but every time I try it makes the status and navigation bar on the phone white. I find that annoying so I had to grab an app to put shortcuts on my home screen that open in the browser instead of the "install" version.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I must be missing something. Firefox only shows me a 'add to home screen' option but not an 'install' on my phone. Is there some sub menu setting?

Edit: these same options below are the way it presents for any known web-apps enabled site.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

i use mobile sites whenever possible, but if it's something i use often and the app is more convient i'll relent. looking at my home screen it's all mostly things that don't have a web equivalent. i'll use an app for things that i WANT notifications for, so really only mastodon and email. for mbin specifically i use the PWA because i'm not sure if any kbin/lemmy/whatever apps work with it, and the user CSS themes are pretty neat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

For mobile, PWAs if possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

If I use it daily, app. Else, website. I dont understand why every website that noone looks at more than twice a year needs an app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

For the fediverse I currently use Voyager and Raccoon for browsing and web for moderation.

As the mod tools becomes better over time I'll likely see myself primarily using Voyager and Raccoon.


In general though it's hard to say:

  • Like my banking apps have become so enshitified with spyware level 'features' I deleted the apps and just use their webpages now.
  • For Youtube and Peertube I primarily use Newpipe/Tubular/Peertube's official app. I use Invidious as the webpage exception for sharing youtube links here as Youtube's own links won't properly load thumbnails for me.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

For frequent use-cases, and where the technology is superior, I will use the native app version, and the web version for all other cases.

Web technology is generally slower than native apps

[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago

I might use an app, but when the app is just a browser with no additional effort, that enrages me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

YouTube: grayjay

Twitch: grayjay

Odysse: grayjay

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Neither, I don't use my phone for social media. I use the PC version of everything.

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