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After Republican vice presidential pick J.D. Vance went viral last week for being extraordinarily awkward at a donut shop in Georgia, Democrat Tim Walz had to poke fun at him during a snack stop in Pennsylvania. 

Pursuing sweets like whoopie pies and donuts at Cherry Hill Orchards in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Walz slid in a joke  while speaking to voters. 

“Look at me, I have no problem picking out donuts.”

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That just made me want pie and donuts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Whoopie pies aren't pies, it's two cookies with frosting between them. Source is I am Pennsylvanian

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I kind of like how they've realised that against Narcissists and Freaks like Trump and Vance, only taking the high road won't get you anywhere. You've got to throw in roughly 30% piss them off with sass.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Walz: You just brought piss to a shit fight you weird little couch fucker! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4pLbcLrquio

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

This video takes on a new vibe when you learn that the actor has had several allegations of violence and erratic behavior. The dude lost like half of his brain in a medical issue, somehow survived, and is now a very aggressive drunk. Supposedly beating and choking a woman in his college comedy improv group, calling in a bomb threat on a train, etc…

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well he fucked it up immediately. He didn't ask for sprinkle stuff or whatever makes sense. Pretty standard requests when donut shopping, I thought??

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Oh. Oh God. He.. caught it, because he's never been around people before

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I'm trying my best to be impartial but I can't not notice the main difference is how out of touch one is compared to the other. They live in different worlds.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wait, so you don't order donuts by first stating your name, then asking every employee in the store who makes eye contact "How long have you worked here"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Thanks to you I finally decided to watch the video of him donut shopping and it didn't seem that bad. Just some out of touch rich guy struggling to make small talk.

But nowhere near the level of couch-fucking weird everyone's been claiming.

So yeah I guess it would be better if he were a total sociopath and could more convincingly fake excitement during small talk?

The part that made the video bad wasn't his behavior, it was how clearly the staff knew it was a meaningless publicity stunt. The staff has enough braincells to know that this guy's policies, if elected, would do nothing to make their lives better, and that they are just pawns to make him look like he appeals to common folk. This is not something specific to this candidate, but his entire party.

They should've just declined him as a customer, or insisted that no recording at all could be done on their property. That would have sent a clearer message to him, unless you think the existence of this video helps the Kamala campaign because they will overreact to it and add it to the "he's weird" pile. I agree he's probably that bad kind of weird (I believe all Republicans are either so rich and selfish it is indistinguishable from being straight up evil, are racist, or being blackmailed) , but I don't see that being demonstrated in the video.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

What they should've done was asking him about raising thier wages.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good point. “Thanks for coming, we’d be happy to serve you, but we do not allow recording video in our store.”

That said he is pretty awkward ordering the donuts. He asked for whatever makes sense instead of asking for a recommendation.

My take on JD Vance is that he’s a talented guy who figured out that if he can transform into this right wing guy then he can have a career. Being a conservative catholic is part of that mask. The biggest tell to me is the timing of his conversion and the fact that his wife is Hindu. If he takes his Christianity as seriously as he claims, then his top priority should be to convert his wife, not respect her choice to do her own thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If he takes his Christianity as seriously as he claims, his wife wouldn't have any choice: she would be required to submit to the authority of her husband.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You’re missing my point. I’m talking about his personal relationship with his religion, not how he might impose it on others, including her. I assume he loves her and if he is serious he ought to be terrified about her salvation. But I don’t think that’s the case. I think he is not serious about his religion nor the other strong stances he appears to take. The issue of the salvation of his wife should be his most serious concern and if he can wave that away it just proves that he doesn’t mean anything he says. My biggest problem with Trump is that is a deeply immoral man without values to guide him. Vance was supposed to shore up the support of the right but he’s just as rudderless.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

It is just an out of touch rich guy struggling to make small talk, but a particularly bad example. It's made worse because of his self-mythologizing of growing up 'normal' and poor and incessant talk of how if all "these people" behaved as they should they'd be where he is.

It's really weird for a national politician going out to shake hands to not have the charisma to have no more than a single question and single response and seem to have negative interest in the visit.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They should've just declined him as a customer, or insisted that no recording at all could be done on their property.

The employees at the donut shop did not make that call. The owner (who likely wasn't on site) made that call. I do believe the one employee had her face blurred because she did not agree to being recorded.

The Vance campaign should not have released the video, because even if it's not as bad as people are saying, it's not good and does not help his campaign in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I do believe the one employee had her face blurred because she did not agree to being recorded.

Nope, Vance’s team released the footage without blurring her. It was third-party news sites that blurred her when they reposted it, because she clearly didn’t want to be filmed. But Vance’s team 100% posted it without any kind of blur at all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a pretty open and shut lawsuit, then.

Just... throw it on the pile with the rest of them, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think Democrats are trying to take lessons learned from the 2016 and 2020 campaigns, applying them to properly defeat Trump. Those campaigns they felt too civilized and proper to stoop into Trump's tactics, and that barely got them anywhere.

To defeat Trump, we ended with an organic version of the "birther conspiracy" which is the couch-fucker thing. Getting the media all riled up with silly things so that Trump's distractions become meaningless is part of the strategy, the "but her emails" of 2024 is the "weird" thing. In both cases the Democrats don't have to be delusional, it's kind of tongue-in-cheek while the Trump campaign is having meltdown after meltdown over it.

A visit to a donut shop should be a layup for any campaign to look like they understand the common voter, it's not that Vance looked like a perv doing it, it's just telling that the Trump campaign can't even succeed in that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Idk I just watched the video and my takeaway was that this is the kind of man who asks a waitress out and doesn’t take evasiveness as an answer. Maybe it’s not full perv, but it’s not not perv

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Goddamn articles quit fucking linking me to goddamn Twitter

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What, and make them host the video themselves? Hah!

We could always ask politicians to stop posting there...

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Seriously, why are we still using Twitter?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Because news agencies are so goddamn lazy now, that's all they do is surf fucking Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Embarrassing. Especially when government entities insist on Twitter being the primary way they communicate with the public.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

To be fair, the BBC trialed a Mastadon account in 2022, but I think the fact that some ex-Tweeters went BlueSky kinda convoluted the exodus.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Idiots are addicted. Corporations are addicted.

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