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Despite lobbing the same questions at Tim Walz, J.D. Vance lost it when pressed about his own military service.

Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance seems perfectly happy to dish out criticism of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz over his military record, but he just can’t take it. 

Vance blew up at CNN anchor Brianna Keilar on Thursday, after she called Vance an “imperfect messenger” to criticize Walz over his military service. 

“At what point did military service become a liability?” Keilar asked rhetorically on CNN’s Inside Politics. “I also think that J.D. Vance as a messenger on this may be an imperfect messenger.”

Vance served a single four-year enlistment in the public affairs section in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, and according to his memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, the Republican nominee was “lucky to escape any real fighting.” Still, that hasn’t stopped Vance from accusing Walz, who served with the Army National Guard for 24 years, of exiting the service before his unit was deployed to Iraq.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

You started it, baby face

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Inflation and housing and healthcare are huge issues which no one is addressing amidst the name calling and virtue signaling.

I don’t care about military records from any candidate! Address the issues, talk about what matters.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The annoying thing is that people interested in policy issues have already committed to a party. What’s left are swing voters who (when polled) come up with the most ridiculous reasons for voting for/against a candidate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's left are how many people are going to bother with voting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Agreed, but again I would argue that pro interested in policy are likely to vote no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Harris and Walz address those issues in their speeches.

What you're missing is that the media isn't covering those statements. The silly schoolyard BS drives clicks and, for far too many people, it affects their voting choices.

Walz, who spent years as a school teacher, understands the mindset of T**** and Shady Vance and is using their tactics against them in a very efficient way.

If you look at it from a teachers POV, T**** is the school bully and Vance is the nose picking stooge who desperately wants the same power and attention.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for not using that arsewipes name. Wish more people would do the same.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

lol he's not voldemort. Trump is a bitch.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Sure, but the media serves up what gets clicks. Why don’t people ask for better?

Edit: also this is something the candidates should say, that the media needs to bring attention to the issues. Enough with the schoolyard stuff.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Ah yes, we simply need people to ask for better!

I mean, I definitely agree with you - we should have an educated, engaged population that is able to critically assess what they're being told and realize when people are trying to distract them from important issues. Of course! That's still the destination, though, and it's a ways off.

Why don't people ask for better?

Because education funding is too low.
Because grocery bills are too high.
Because folks are working multiple jobs just to try to get by.
Because we've had to watch Trump/the GOP be weird little gremlins while pretending to have the moral high ground and GOD does it feel good to watch them melt down over being called on it.

"Asking for better" is a healthy salad, and watching someone get dunked on is a greasy fast food burger.
Sure, everyone should pick a healthy salad... but this is America.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

SPOT-FUCKING-ON! Thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

As a veteran, fuck Sgt Scribbles.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Private Parts In A Sofa.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I have to wonder if Vance would’ve had the same reaction if the anchor was a man, and not a woman?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh. When I get asked about mine, I'm very up-front about all of it.

Weird.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Walz served for 24 years, was deployed during operation enduring freedom, was a the ranking member of Veteran Affairs, has been key to bipartisan legislation for veteran suicide prevention, and he retired a year before he would’ve been deployed to Iraq.

Vance slimy weirdo who knows his base would rather eat up lies than confront the fact that they’ve been conned by a billionaire huckster for a decade.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Also, 4 years is a pretty standard enlistment period for the guard. He did an extra 4 years after finishing his 20, and instead of doing 28 years he retired and ran for Congress, which also required him to retire due to the Hatch Act.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 months ago (2 children)

“When were you ever in war?” Vance demanded at a Michigan rally on Wednesday. “What bothers me about Tim Walz is this stolen valor garbage. Do not pretend to be something that you’re not.”

How do you consistently fuck up this bad every time?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Easy, it's called being a republikkklown

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It does look like Walz misspoke years ago when he was making a point about how some weapons only belong in war and not anywhere else. I don't think it's that big of a deal to make, especially coming from someone else who also didn't see combat but more importantly doesn't seem to understand that service is far more than combat.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't think that's a misstatement at all. Nobody needs an M2 Browning in their backyard, as cool as they are.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Couchfucker Vance is a fuckin hypocrite?

No fuckin way.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

What a weird coward

[–] [email protected] 180 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean....if you don't want people asking questions about your military service, maybe, just maybe, don't question the military service of your opponent.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago

This is just me, never served but have relatives who did...

If you don't have a purple heart and the dude you're talking about isn't claiming to have one, maybe stfu about Stolen Valor.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Here we have distillation

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