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Despite lobbing the same questions at Tim Walz, J.D. Vance lost it when pressed about his own military service.

Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance seems perfectly happy to dish out criticism of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz over his military record, but he just can’t take it. 

Vance blew up at CNN anchor Brianna Keilar on Thursday, after she called Vance an “imperfect messenger” to criticize Walz over his military service. 

“At what point did military service become a liability?” Keilar asked rhetorically on CNN’s Inside Politics. “I also think that J.D. Vance as a messenger on this may be an imperfect messenger.”

Vance served a single four-year enlistment in the public affairs section in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, and according to his memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, the Republican nominee was “lucky to escape any real fighting.” Still, that hasn’t stopped Vance from accusing Walz, who served with the Army National Guard for 24 years, of exiting the service before his unit was deployed to Iraq.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

The things they feel are important... Seem so

WEIRD

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

99 % of deployed soldiers never saw combat and 99% of those who claim to have did not.it can really piss off all those who had to deploy and worked hard jobs to basically be told they weren't enough by someone like Vance.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Finally someone in the military community with a microphone is clapping back. J.D. Vance wants to talk about commitment? He left after 4 years. While the war was still going on. He wants to talk about combat? 90 percent of his job was in an air conditioned office behind multiple layers of security. He wants to talk about one time Walz misspoke? How about the multiple times J.D. Vance has claimed he saw combat?

As an old Infantryman with a Combat Infantry Badge and a Purple Heart I feel secure in saying the only one here doing a Stolen Valor is the 4 year carpetbagger trying to tear down the record of a man who served honorably for 24 years and reached the highest possible enlisted pay grade. A man who was retired and decided to activate prestige mode after 9/11.

If we let that happen successfully then we will have cheapened us all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Look, he DID see combat.

In pictures.

In the articles he wrote in his office securely in the middle of the base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To be fair we know he went out at least once to take pictures of the civil affairs guys doing their thing. And he did have to get to and from the base at the beginning and end. So ... 3 times? 3 times from secured area to secured area on a route cleared by someone else, with no expectation to stay and fight unless several redundancies have failed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vance was such a perfect pick for VP, they couldn't have anyone better. He's perfectly a little bitch in comparison in every single way with absolutely nothing redeeming about him, to the point it's hilarious. Couch fucker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Apparently this Peter thiel nonsense is real. Hopefully will die off this election.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

The GOP loves the vets... but only the ones that didn't actually do anything...

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What does "an imperfect passenger?" Mean in this context?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's calling out Walz service history when really he has so much less service history than Walz. And as far as I can tell the "stolen valor" stuff is made up.

Walz retired before his unit received deployment orders so it wasn't like he was evading a deployment. Walz was a sergeant major when he retired but upon retirement was downgraded to a master sergeant because he hadn't completed all the sergeant major courses required within 3 years of his promotion.

So Republicans are saying he "stole valor" by claiming to retire as a sergeant major but to anyone whose been in the military (like me) this is really nothing like stolen valor...He did serve as a sergeant major and retire while a sergeant major but he is NOT a retired sergeant major. A distinction that's obviously a bit confusing and normally nobody would care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That makes sense. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

In this context, it means you need to read more carefully.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The article said he was an "imperfect messenger". It means that a candidate with a history of pooping in bed should think twice before leveling criticism at his opponent for snoring.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lol, this was my FIRST reaction/comment the other day when I read about his comments here on Lemmy. The GOP is full of fake soldiers and draft dodgers. They don't care about the military. Just listen to Trump's own comments about our dead heroes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

"I was going to join but..."

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

i can see how it can be frustrating to see every q&a session has a military-related question couched in.

but seriously, does he not melt down to anything? even the softest of balls he gets asked pisses him off for some reason.

Reporter: "what makes you laugh?"

Vance: "well i laugh at bogus questions like this from lamestream media!"

Reporter: "why would people want to have a beer with you"

Vance: "because i like beer... maybe a little too much. I'M SURE THE MEDIA'S GONNA JUMP ON MY THROAT FOR THIS TOO"

like Jesus Christ dude calm the fuck down they're trying to help you and you can't stop being a weirdo for a goddamn second.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying Vance is throwing the election on purpose to fuck with Trump...

But if he was, what would he be doing differently?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

he would probably fuck that up somehow and help him win

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That is a fair answer to that question.

Now I'm picturing Vance trying intentionally the say the most racist thing he can think of and instead of doing something like dropping the Hard R while giving a speech in the middle of Harlem about how "We're gonna reinstate slavery baby!"

He somehow manages to not only endear black people to Trump and vice verse, but is actually successful in one speech at ending racism forever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

or if you wanna go really crazy... he develops a charisma, and people start liking him. he starts acting like a human and stops being a weirdo creep.

i think your scenario is more likely though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Yes, fellow human, I love to do human things like drinking beer!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oddly suspicious...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

For me, the most surprising thing about him has been how bad he is with the media.

I knew he was going to be a fascist piece of shit. I'm shocked at how incompetent a public speaker he is.

He's a fucking Senator and can't answer the most softball possible question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

He's literally only been in politics for like 2 years lol shit can't get any more stupid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It's impressive how JD Vance seems to be the best player on Kamela's team.

Honestly he reminds me of Paul Ryan, who did not do Romney any favors.

I still remember the time Ryan bizarrely barged into a homeless shelter, took pictures of himself cleaning bowls that were already clean, and left, to the utter bewilderment of the people running the shelter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I’m shocked at how incompetent a public speaker he is.

Such is the way of authoritarian regimes.

Being a part of the GOP when Trump took over really came down to just agreeing with the man blindly and letting him treat you how he pleased. Trump can't stand to share the spotlight with anyone else meaning people in the GOP most likely aren't getting any experience as most of them share their big moments with the orange man who takes over immediately.

Most of these people have no personality outside of supporting Trump and they aren't capable of much either because they would make Trump nervous.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If this is how he responds to softballs, can you imagine how he responds to hardballs? I can't wait to see the debates!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

His balls get hard when they are pressed down against plush cushions wrapped in italian leather.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

can you imagine how he responds to hardballs

I picture him crying like Kavanaugh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

as Emma Vigeland said, it's karmic justice that he basically got desantis reincarnated as his VP candidate. they have the same charisma suck, the same uncomfortable laugh at things that clearly bother them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

military-related question couched in.

I see what you did there

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