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*Musk has spent days beefing with politicians over the far-right unrest sweeping the UK. *

Elon Musk could be summoned for a grilling by British MPs over X’s role in race riots that have rocked the U.K. over the last week, as well as his own incendiary comments about the violence.

Labour MPs Chi Onwurah and Dawn Butler, who are competing to chair parliament’s science, innovation and technology committee, both told POLITICO they’d press the billionaire X owner and other technology executives to answer questions about the role of social media platforms amid mounting unrest in the U.K.

Musk has spent days beefing with British politicians over the riots, and is locked in a war of words with Prime Minister Keir Starmer over the U.K's handling of them. Musk on Sunday wrote “civil war is inevitable” in the U.K. and claimed that the response by U.K. police has been “one-sided."

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

They should. It’s nuts this motherfucker has the influence he does. He’s an actual dipshit who’s only able to do this because he was born into money and failed upwards. He’s a moron with outsized influence. Hold him to account, please.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I think we should strap Elon Musk to one of his rockets & launch him directly into the sun... Or maybe just like a big wall, that might be more entertaining.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Shitheels has a fucking opinion on how to run everything it seems. Clear sign he should run nothing, since the only thing being actually run is his fucking mouth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Let's fucking go. Drag this fucker Infront of parliament.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I doubt they could do it since Musky is a US citizen. I didn't know the laws for this kind of thing though, so maybe they could with the right kind of legalese?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

They have some powers, they got upset at Facebook and decided to flex a bit by sending one of the boys around, to invite one of his mates for a chat.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/24/mps-seize-cache-facebook-internal-papers

The person sent was the serjeant at arms. They carry a sword. Doubt they took it out but they also carry one of the House of Commons maces, which is gold covered and jewel encrusted, about 1.5m (4.9ft) long and weighs roughly 10kg (22 lbs).

Imagine some large, pissed off looking dude, dressed like he’s from the year 1415, kicking your hotel door in because you didn’t RSPV properly. Then being told hand over documents or we may stick you in jail (and you know the pretended it would be the Tower of London).

The 1,000 yard stare he must get when asked if he enjoyed London and how lovely that history must be.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I guess he can ignore a court summons, but then he can never enter the UK again, which he might want to do at some point.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Love how this guy's one of the richest people in the world yet he's got nothin better to do than fuck with the common folk. Guess he doesn't get enough attention at home, so here we are watching him stoke racism and stupidity to entertain his pathetic insecure self

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's actually so much simpler than that. He's tweaked the Twitter algorithm to serve more right wing brain rot for engagement and, being a habitual user, rotted his own fucking brain more and more. He's indirectly self radicalizing. He's getting high on his own supply.

At least zuck doesn't actually use that shithole called Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Love how this guy's one of the richest people in the world yet he's got nothin better to do than fuck with the common folk.

to entertain his pathetic insecure self

To those who have finished watching the first season of Squid Game, this observation is prescient.

Capitalism replaced feudalism; and the new aristocrats are the billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Today in “Stop! I can only get so hard!! 😖😰” news…

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Less to the point of the article and more to it's wording:

Why the fuck do they call it "race riots" as far as I can tell there are a bunch of rioting fascists and then a broad group of people (refugees, local citizens and Antifa) trying to defend places or stop the riots. This is not a black vs white fight this fight is between fascism and anti-fascism (or at least democracy)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why do you think it's more fascist or than racist? The political "right" of the UK is incredibly anti-immigrant, you can see that in how they've voted for MPs and Brexit. The racial hate is more noticeable towards brown people, i.e. anyone looking anything from Arab to south Asian, there's even the p-word that comes close (but isnt quite) the equivalent of the n-word.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The word that's the first four letters of a country's name is that serious of an insult now?

I'm a yank so I'm pretty out of touch on this but I was under the apparently mistaken impression that it was no more serious than calling an Irishman a mick or a paddy (neither of which are awesome but don't approach the derogatory ferocity of the T- word for Roman Catholic Irish).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Different countries have different insults, simple as. Calling someone a spook means radically different things on both ends of the Atlantic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I would advise not doing that in Ireland. Anyway, yes, p*** has a comparable if not so extreme or long history as the n-word in the UK.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sorry I didn't mean to imply that the Nazis aren't racist I definitely know that. For me it's just a different framing between "There are Race riots" (i.e. riots/fights between racial identies) vs fascist/racists rioting because of their racists reasons (and people fighting them in a (self)defense way. I hope I made clear what I meant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Most race riots were just group victimization of the minority. See the zoot suit riots where they straight up hunted down brown men and boys, beat them, and undressed them. It didn't historically imply that the minority was the cause and doesn't now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I see what you mean, thanks. Maybe of interest, the Oxford English dictionary defines a race riot as "a public outbreak of violence due to racial antagonism", much less specific than your definition which I imagine is America-based, so I think this might be a difference between American and European use of the term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Under what law would the UK govt do this though? I am not sure it’s a great idea since Musk is a private citizen and not a government actor. Would any govt then extend this precedent to any viral comment? Like the person who made the JD Vance couch comment?

OTOH, Musk is in a unique position because of his money and influence, that a normal commentator does not have. So I don’t know, but seems like a legal quagmire.

If however Musk is shown to funnel money to UK PACs persons or parties via any means, then the UK govt has a case to question him as a hostile foreign operator. But otherwise it seems like a tricky scenario. Perhaps the same legalities around the Assange case extend to this? But Assange was a sympathetic figure in many respects. I am not sure Musk has the same freedom of press and speech justifications.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Free speech in the UK does not include hate speech or inciting violence, so that's probably all they need, doesn't matter that he's an individual, in fact it probably makes it much simpler since that makes it not a diplomatic issue.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it's more over the fact that he runs the platform and therefore if his platform helped stoke the flames that caused this then it's completely valid for him to be brought in to be questioned about his involvement and what X will do in the future to combat racism and misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

what X will do in the future to combat racism and misinformation.

Laughable

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah the answer is obviously nothing cause it's Elon but still it's the same type of thing when the US brings in people like Zuckerberg to talk about what their platforms are doing.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

Not trying to minimise this

But this also works as a test drive for what he can do in the US

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

DO IT YOU FUCKING COWARDS

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Musk is really upping his asshole game. He's alienated 50% of the US, a good bit of Norway and now Britain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What has that fucker done again?!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Added to the false narrative that the killer of three little girls at a Taylor Swift themed party at a holiday daycare center. Was a migrant who had just gotten off a small boat and was on an MI5/MI6 watchlist. Which has ledt to a few relatively sporadic race riots from the far right. And now saying that Civil War in the UK is inevitable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I wonder how much better the world would be if that guy learned to shut up...

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