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[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

He threatened Mamdani first, but Owen didn’t have a problem until he threatened Musk?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

can mamdani finance guardian singlehandedly? didn't think so

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

rightoids discover critical support

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

It costs zero fucking dollars just to shut your mouth and not pipe up, a lesson Owen hasn't learned

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Unleash the eyup lovely

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

tromp GET HIM OUT! Folks, he's gotta go!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Owen Jones can join him on an exploding rocket.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Nah, no it doesn't. Deport his ass to Guantanamo.

He can go free once the rest do too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I mean sure but he goes last in line and can deal with whatever defense trickles down onto him when the non-monsters are all protected

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very telling what Democrats decide to get off their asses to defend

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Owen Jones is british IIRC, not really a dem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Musk is going to become the Dem candidate for presidency in 2032, isn't he?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not unless they change/ignore the constitution. Musk was born in South Africa so he isn't eligible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It makes him the perfect candidate for the dems though, they can run him and then the republicans can just declare him ineligible so the democrats automatically lose. Bam! All the benefit of funding and donations, 0 actual risk of needing to actually "govern"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah plus it'd be funny to watch Musk lose an election.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think a wrinkle on that whole saga that isn't discussed often enough is that while Obama was born in the US, McCain objectively was not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago

Except none of it even mattered because both were born to US citizens.

Plus now they want to get rid of jus soli, so where Obama was born would matter even less.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Newsom/Musk 2028

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Musk/Cheney 2028

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

owen jones changed his twitter handle from ownejones84 to owenjonesjourno. In my heart i truly believe this was because people called him owenjones88

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Owne Jones is such a spineless hack

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

iirc Owen Jones has been very sus on Palestine in the past

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Fake, no condemnation of Hamas

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I mean, it's not like he or we are going to cry over deportation of a fascist just for disagreeing with other fascists, but it is an extremely bad power for the US government to feel able to exercise, that can be used en masse against leftists, too.

Further normalising deportations is only a good idea to fascists (and maybe accelerationists). Not saying anybody should sacrifice anything or go marching for melon-musk, but a principled opposition to it isn't the worst or most impractical stance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I always see this precedent argument whenever fascists do something to other fascists, but the US government doesn’t need precedent to act against leftists. There is no point in defending one of the most odious and evil people alive against the machine he helped put into overdrive. They are coming after leftists regardless of whether or not they successfully deport Musk. If they can’t deport him they aren’t going to just throw up their hands and go “welp looks like we can’t go after the left now that the world’s richest fascist bought his way out of trouble”. I guess this sounds harsh but in my view this is just one step removed from liberals who think they can cast spells against the state using legalisms.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Musk can fight his own battles, he's a billionaire. Any shred of attention given to "defending" him is being denied many people millions of times more vulnerable.

Also, whatever victory he might win will be neatly carved out to only apply to people like him. His victory would not actually help us.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Counterpoint: This is extremely funny and should happen

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Where I'm coming from is: he's not the first, he won't be the last, where's the outage for the people who aren't shitheel billionaires? Yes, I want to live in a country where people don't get deported for political reasons, but we already don't live in one of those, so it's funny that it might affect musk, one of the few people who I actually, truly wish suffering on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

All I'll say is he gets to wait in line behind the millions of other people he helped condemn

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

counterpoint: billionaires aren't people, and we shouldn't treat them as though they are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

What if Based Elon buys the gold Trump Card for 5 million?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean it would be bad if they deported him to South Africa. I wouldn't want to inflict him on them. They should deport him to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean instead.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

He can live in exile on Mars

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He wants to go to Mars, doesn't he? I have a very funny idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Launch him with the next batch of starlink satellites.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Like that dumb livestream of his Tesla in space but instead it’s his corpse flailing around

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the mariana trench is lovely this time of the year

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I hear that there's lots of Marinara sauce in there!! Musk will love it!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Yes, won't someone help the world's richest man?!

Like come on. I think there are other more vulnerable people out there who don't own a social media platform.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

using state power to persecute fascists is bad 😔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

using state power to persecute immigrants is good though, i'm conflicted.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, it kind of is when they’re being persecuted for something that can apply to already marginalized people in this country instead of being persecuted for being fascist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

It's already happening to marginalised people though. Why are we drawing the line at Musk?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

In this situation the best opinion to have is this one

kind-vladimir-ilyich "The kind Vladimir Ilyich would have shot everybody here."