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Not getting much by Googling.

If not, what's the ETA?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I can't help but think most of the servers have been solved. The fix is a pain in the ass but it's not like it's monumentally difficult. Anything that's in a server room with a remote access controller should be pretty straightforward.

Kiosks, workstations, desktops are probably all going to happen in priority order. If somebody needs to run around with a key and unlock a door they're probably just going to replace the storage. And they're probably also waiting on that to happen in contract speed.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It’s really up to the individual organizations to fix. There’s not going to be some global “congrats, we pushed and update and now everything is fine” patch, because the crash is preventing a patch from being loaded. It requires manual intervention on every single affected machine. If it’s a large organization with a lean IT team, that could mean days or weeks until every single machine is actually fixed; They’ll be prioritizing the mission-critical systems, so they’ll triage. Start with the wide reaching systems, then the most important employees. The intern will just have to wait.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, still a shit show at airports at the time of writing.

Lots of kiosks, screens, and other devices still show BSODs in airports. Systems still slow and unstable.

Likely similar in other industries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Ugh. I fly home in a week. Hope it's not horrible by then.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s ok, it was just Windows machines. Nobody in their right mind would run anything critical on a Windows machine.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Omg.. I hate Microsoft and windows as much as the next guy but for the last time this isn't a windows problem ffs. Read any of the thousands of articles published on the matter and you'll find that this theoretically could just as easily happen to Linux machines if they were managed by Crowdstrike - which is the problem.

This never ending Linux elitism on Lemmy is making me tired, boss

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Best part is something similar happened with certain Linux distros a few months back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t know if I could have made it more obvious that what I said was a joke. But also, it was a Windows problem in that it only affected Windows machines, and that was the premise of my joke (which is why I phrased it that way).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There have been so many folks ranting about Linux being the solution that it's apparently difficult for me to detect sarcasm, but yes, fair enough

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

At my primary day job, no, they've already announced weekend hours to all employees to resolve issues one by one. I feel for IT/Helpdesk.

At two of my friends day jobs, yes. Everything was fixed by late afternoon.

At another friend's day job, no, and things aren't looking great as their disaster recovery plans, staffing, etc. were not prepared for this. It's sounding like it could extend into next week for them.

For another friend of mine...he got turned away at Starbucks this morning because their computers weren't working. I guess we'll see if he gets turned away tomorrow? Haha.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  • there are currently two (?) fixes
    • “You memorized your BitLocker key, right?” – physical access to the computer to boot into safe mode, delete a file, and reboot
    • “Thoughts and prayers” – let the computer keep rebooting until it manages (somehow) to grab the fix in the lag or delays between reboots
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

There's a third one I've heard:

  • Intel VPro (the thing that privacy people disable because runs at a lower level than the OS and does mysterious stuff), is being used to remove the broken file while the OS is booting/crashed.
[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Everyone in my very large company shares the same bitlocker key for some reason. I guess for today is the reason

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah we good. The fix was ezpz and even a company with several thousand servers should be up now. End user workstations may take more effort, but it's a 5 min fix per user.

Honestly this was half as stressful as Print Nightmare was, from an IT perspective.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Glad it wasn't too bad for you/y'all.

Unfortunately, I wiped my computer Thursday night before our company mentioned anything. lol. I ended up finding out about the issue on Lemmy/Reddit. My company didn't send anything out until this morning - which I still find insane, my laptop crashed and started looping around 7p (took them like 12 hours).

My laptop just rebooted while I was working so I assumed some program I'd installed caused it (explorerpatcher). I tried everything, safe mode, system restore, uninstall updates. I figured the only option left was to reinstall windows. Done it plenty of times on my personal PC

Oh well, lesson learned. Shit's totally fucked now. It won't even connect to the Internet. lol. Definitely a Monday problem though

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Hold up.... You thought maybe you downloaded malware (which in this case that was not the only cause) so you took it upon yourself to reinstall windows on a company issued laptop?

  1. Why are you trying to fix it? Submit It ticket and it's their problem.

  2. If you suspect malware alert it security immediately. Many malware act as a gateway to lock other systems. Yes you might get in trouble but I'd rather be yelled at for downloading something then yelled at for infecting my company servers will ransomware/malware.

  3. Atleast in my company a computer connecting without a company supplied image of windows will be denied. Completely understand you not connecting to the internet.

  4. This problem was not caused by you but could of been... Take this as a lesson to be more proactive in the future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

This is actually the worst type of end-user.

Doesn't make a ticket or notify anyone that there is a problem and then proceeds to try and fix it themselves incorrectly. When it does become a ticket, they won't remember exactly what steps they took to troubleshoot and will waste 5x as much time from support staff trying to fix it than if they just didn't touch it in the first place.

Guaranteed didn't wipe the machine from the built in reset/recovery screen and instead used a windows installer that was created on a different computer and doesn't have the correct network drivers in the image.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah #2 is a big one. I've had to deal with a user who got hit by a supply chain attack, and doing forensics on their box was invaluable.

If they'd wiped their desktop as soon as it got compromised, we'd have nothing to go off of. I'd expect that user to be in some pretty serious trouble tbh for violating our security policy by not notifying us immediately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

They might have a BYOD policy at work where they remote into an azure desktop or something and then reinstalled Windows on their physical device. Who knows. But yeah, they still should have notified their security personnel at the very least before taking any further action, lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Or just "could've"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

You missed a then/than as well

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So, rebooting 15 times wasn't enough, huh?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

It's funny. I didn't have a lot of issues with our company. Three machines, one server. I deleted the bad update on three. When I got to the fourth, it was already fixed because the user just restarted his machine many times.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So this time IT can't say "have you tried restarting it?"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

The sixteenth time’s the charm….

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nah.

There are fixes but none yet that aren't a PITA.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I also wouldn't accept a fix that isn't a pita souvlaki.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

The pita fix only works if you can dig up a CD drive to put it in though. Most people don't have one and are SOL.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I thought they were rolling back the update?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago

It doesn’t fix those already affected. And affected machines require manual intervention, because they cannot boot up to receive any sort of automatic patch.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Happy to see my meme is getting extra usage ❤️

[–] [email protected] 119 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They are still waiting to receive a properly formatted ticket through official channels before they will start working on it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (3 children)

“It doesn’t work. Please fix.”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I answered one of these once with "email confirmed to be working, ticket closed"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did anyone try just turning off the internet and turning it back on?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

15 times in a row.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

FWIW, It was working before it stopped working

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

*cover sheet on the tps report