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Ever since I graduated, everywhere I've worked has been 8-5. My current company is going to soon start expecting us to be in 7-5.

How many of you here work a 9-5 with a paid lunch?

Productivity keeps going up but so do working hours.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

8:30-3:00 baby, though honestly 3:45 or 4:00 would be better. I get 40 minutes for lunch and 90 minutes alone without students. I've got it nice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Mine is 9-4 some days. I do automated QA for an enterprise application. Management budgets 2 hours a day for lunch and overhead (meetings, emails, chatting, etc.) for each employee. If I don't hit that then I can get off early.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Sure. If you graduated from Harvard with a business degree and have the connections to walk straight into a board room. Everyone else works 7-5 with a 30 minute lunch you're expected to eat at your desk. Also PTO is a trap and IT can't fix your printer because they're still working on the other printer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I'm 7-3. I eat lunch at my desk while I work so I can leave early.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Naw, there's only about 3 now. Being rich, being poor, and being a cop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Many research jobs are like that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't even know paid lunch breaks were/are even a thing. Most jobs I've been in had 30 min unpaid lunch.

I work 9 to 6 with 1 hour unpaid lunch at my current job. I don't really do anything during my lunch besides sit in the office wasting time for an hour. Home is 30 min drive away, so I can't go home. No parks nearby to walk around. Makes it feel like I am working a 9 hour shift getting paid 8 since I am sitting in the office for 9 hours...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Back when i worked an office job this is why lots of people would just go sit in thier car during thier break.

I started doing it to take a undisturbed nap. Also so people stop bothering me while I'm on break.

My mouth is full of food and I'm chewing in the break room. Why the fuck are you here to talk to me about work...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My work agreement is supposed to be 8-5 with hour lunch. I work 9-5 or 8-4 and eat at my desk when i can. But i do have mandatory overtime which sometimes makes it 7am-9pm. Fun times

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Seattle electrician here. My schedule is 6-230 with a 30 minute unpaid lunch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Do you mean you're available on-call from 6:00 to 2:30? 20 hrs a day is too much even for third-world country standards

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

2:30 pm or 14:30, that's just an 8 hr day plus lunch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

My old job was oppressive clock watchers so everyone just strolled in as close to 8am as they could and left at 5pm sharp (people would be lined up at the turnstiles waiting to badge out). So why are they having you there for 10 hours a day? I'd rather come in an hour later than get a 2 hour lunch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Where I'm at in Canada it's almost always 8:30 to 4:30

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a 9-5 job as a software engineer. Though really I can stop working whenever I'm done with my assigned work. I usually stop around 3 or 3:30.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Same. I am available 9 - 5, but I tend to be actually working 10 - 4. It fluctuates depending on how badly management wants things. And of course there's the rotating on call schedule where sometimes I have to wake up in the middle of the night to confirm that a service my team owns is impacted by some other service's outage. FUN!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I am technically on 8am-5pm, though the boss lets us stop responding to emails at 430pm and head home. I'd have to answer a call or text, but that never happens. I get 1h unpaid lunch.

My coworkers come in a half hour later but only get a half hour lunch. I like the longer break, so I'm find with it. Technically, we're all salaried, so we can show up a bit late or leave a bit early so long as we communicate with the boss about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

9-5 is definitely no longer standard, although traffic does get noticeably worse here after 8am.

That being said, what is their justification for 7-5? Unless you're taking a 2 hour unpaid lunch, that's mandatory overtime, which most companies aren't super fond of paying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Lol. Overtime. In the US. Wage theft is the largest form of theft in the United States.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

they said the US so I'm assuming the company doesn't really do anything properly and no one regulates it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

...overtime?..welcome to the world of exempt employees where anything less than 45 hours requires "voluntary" salary deductions...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Can't say for the US, but in NL, Europe, 9-6 with an hour mandatory break is the default for programming work. We hear the adults complain about 9-5 as students, we go to work, turns out its 8-5 or 9-6. Fuck.

Uneducated works tends to be 8.5 hours per day, instead of 9; only because half an hour breaks are the norm, there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was literally going to ask this same question last week. Past three employers are expecting 8-5 m-f but only pay 40 hours.

I've just been coming in at 6 before the boss to look like a hardworking then leave at 2 so I only work what I'm paid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That's because you get a 1 hour lunch break. I would make sure to spend 60 minutes a day eating lunch.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

Work in excess of 40 hrs per week is generally guaranteed overtime pay so that so called company you supposedly work for is really doing itself dirty if its requiring its employees to put in such hours.

I’m more inclined to assume you’re just a troll doing some soft propaganda so not really interested in any further conversation—but if you’re a real person and you really do work for a company that’s just gonna start requiring working over 40 hrs a week id suggest reporting the company to your state’s department of labor and finding a new place to work.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Many of my jobs in software have been a sort of 10 to 6 schedule. Most of them have been pretty flexible about that so long as you attended all the required meetings and got your work done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

For the past 10 years or so, companies have gotten rather fond of 8am meetings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have one actually. I'm in NH if that's relevant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to guess you mean New Hampshire in the USA?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well, yes, the question said "in the USA" so I didn't think I'd have to specify but I should probably still have used the full name for people who don't live here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Good point, it did mention US in the title

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

9 to 5 is just a phrase referencing a standard full time day shift job not about the specific start/stop times

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

My dad technically works 9 to 5 in the tech field for the government. It's just that it's 9-5 in a different time zone than the one he lives in (it's a remote job). IDK about his lunch though... 🤔 I assume it's paid only because he is salaried, not paid hourly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Similar but only because I skip lunch

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

This is the answer - Only salaried jobs are 9-5, otherwise you get an unpaid lunch which adds 30m-1h to the time range. These days, salaried jobs also try to exploit making you work outside of these time ranges...regularly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

My last job was 9-5 with a paid lunch. It was toxic AF tho

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Not US, but Canada. I don't work a desk job, but but drive around doing work out of a van full of tools, with ladders on top.

Most days I can do 6-2, 7-3, 8-4, 9-5, how ever I want.. After 8 hrs I get over time. After 12 hrs is double time.

Lunch is paid.

Usually I set an alarm, either get up, or snooze a bit, and find myself on the job site sometime between 7 and 8 put in 8 hrs of work that day, and go home unless we get busy and something comes up, and the over time is there if I want it. I take it more often than not. It pays off come Christmas time as a pay bonus

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I noticed recently that MS Teams allows you to set a workday that defaults to 9 hours. I found that odd, but if most people in the US have a 9 hour day with a 30 min lunchbreak and two 15 minute other breaks, I guess it makes sense?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Teams defaults are pure scummery.

No, don't alert me on a Sunday night with notifications that I might have missed over the last two days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This, but the thing is it used to be 8 hours total including the hour or so lunch, 9-5 right, and now its 7. 5 hours of literal work with three smaller breaks, an extra 30 mins of work a day still.

(fixed lol thanks)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where I live there’s a mandated 30 minute unpaid lunch break and two paid 15 minute breaks for any workday of 8 hours or more. So that’s an 8.5 hour day unless lunch is longer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Lol I didn't count well, good point 8.50 instead of 9.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Never had a paid lunch

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Expected work hours seem to be increasing everywhere over the last twenty years or so. It's gotten pretty nuts.

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