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A New York appeals court on Monday agreed to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump’s $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.

If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing his assets while he appeals.

Delay. Delay. Delay.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If the courts don't provide justice, eventually some other means will.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

DIFFERENT RULES

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago

I'm sure courts are happy to arbitrarily halve bond judgements for low level drug offenders.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago

the world of the rich vs the average person...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why am I still paying for shit?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fuck do they mean an appeals court ruled on this, the 454 million was the appeal, the bond required to be posted to appeal the ruling. No other courts have jurisdiction over this shit, ignore that illegitimate court.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I’m numb. I care but I don’t. Nothing surprises me anymore. Fuck this guy and all his toadies.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

FUCK THIS JUSTICE SYSTEM.

RIGGED AS FUCK

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine a black dude who had a bit of weed on him and his bond is 10k and he's like: okay, what about a cool 1k, because i'm obviously not paying anyway.
Are americans really surprised why the rest of the world doesn't take them seriously?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He yells out in the court about how rigged the system is against him and the judge is just like, "Now, now, try to behave a little better, okay!? Just let me know if you can't come up with the full amount! Love you, boo!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asking the Court to Stop Enforcement of the Judgment: Filing a Notice of Appeal does not stop or stay the winning side from taking steps to collect or enforce the judgment from the lower court. To put the collection on hold, you may have to ask the court for a stay. You may have to pay an amount of money equal to the judgment amount, called an undertaking, to the court while the appeal is being decided.

Appeals Basics

IANAL, but does that may put this within the courts abilities?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The court judge ruled that he did need to pay the amount while the appeal is being decided. Not sure where the pay a portion came from other than the appealate court's ass.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 211 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If he has $500/M on hand, this shouldn't be allowed.

If he DOESN'T have $500/M on hand... This still shouldn't be allowed.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like nothing is ever going to stop this piece of shit besides his own mortality. I am afraid for the future…

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Even then, the damage is already done. He has changed the political calculus forever. There is no going back to the pre-Trump era.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I know people have compared Taylor Swift's ability to pay, but whatever happened to Faux news and their almost billion dollar judgement? Did they manage to have the the cash? Thought Donnie was supposed to be personally wealthy which should make it easier to pull cash out his ass without having to consult a board or whatnot...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 179 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I fully understand how people become radicalized now.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Rich White men shouldn't have to ever have consequences for their actions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I'm going to need you to get alllll the way off my back about this Trump being a criminal thing.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t forget her emails. Never forget her emails.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago

This is such fucking bullshit. The rich live by a different set of rules than the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FfS AG James should appeal.

The money lets him appeal - it sets the bond for the appeal.

It does not reduce the disgorgement.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

AG James should be able to seize $298M worth of property.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

“Well, I’d like to see ol Donny Trump wriggle his way out of THIS jam!”

*Trump wriggles his way out of the jam easily*

“Ah! Well. Nevertheless,”

source

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

October 2016

Mfer wasn't even president yet

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Huh, I hadn’t even noticed that. Good catch!

He’s easily wriggled his way out of SO many jams since then.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think this is signaling that they intend to reduce the fine on appeal.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Of course they intend to reduce the fine on appeal. Donnie owns the purse strings for the RNC. Conservatives cannot afford him going broke.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (21 children)

5 days ago I was downvoted for saying this would happen. Yet here we are.

Expect this judgement to get appealed and tossed completely. They can't do it all in one go as that's too obvious. Doing a slow roll. Randomly extending the deadline and slashing the bond amount is just the first step. Expect more. Each time easing up even more on Trump.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're all just clinging on to the last sheds of hope in order to not fall into the endless pit of despair.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Never in the history of mankind has conservatism been stopped by pacifism. The plague of conservatism can only be cured through action.

Courts will not stop conservatives.

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