The bot spam is quite a bit worse, even when turning bots off
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I don't know if it's the users themselves or just the fact it's a smaller community as a whole, but I see way, way more drama posts about random things going on in niche parts of Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit. And unlike those on Reddit, most of these posts on Lemmy amount to nothing but the OP overreacting or reaching for the sake of being a victim. I can only think of one bit of drama that was legit, and that was the Ten Forward/Risa thing.
And it's not more or less annoying than Reddit, it's basically the same thing as the nazis but with a different flavor: the tankies. It's just... Weird. I'd never encountered that shit before.
This platform is almost 100% idealism and politics. Any hobby/technical community goes completely inactive.
Second this. A lotta dumb political crap.
Most of the crap itself isn't even political. Just dumb crap people from "political" communities.
I'm a socialist but the level of communism here gives me a headache. Wish I could block the whole hexbear instance
The pro china/Russia stuff is super weird. Also the hex bear goons brigading everything.
It's very easy for bots and fascists to have a voice here unfortunately
Everyone should have a voice to be honest. Shutting them out completely won't help, it just creates a bubble. As a human species it's important for us to communicate.
But yeah there's definitely more of them here unfortunately.
Deplatforming harmful ideologies is shown to create a reduction in hate speech and harm overall.
Because of this, I am pro-defederation of hexbear. They can have a voice, sure, but it's my choice if I want to listen
I believe it to a degree, but I think it's also a problem because we can't ever change their minds if we're not talking with each other. If they're stuck in a hate-filled bubble, they're only going to enrage each other further and accept each other's biases.
It's a different story if they're attacking other people based on their own beliefs, then they should absolutely be banned from the platform. And if enough of that happens, then at that point de-federation should be the option (which I guess is probably the stage we're at)
Regarding your first point, I think there's more harm mitigated than rehabilitation opportunity lost by quarantining and thus limiting the outreach potential of extremists. The saner, less edgy parts of the Internet are easy enough to access and these people will come across them in due course if they are in a receptive mindset. Whereas I am completely comfortable making their weird little dens of groupthink harder to stumble upon by default.
I mean good luck changing any their minds. They are heavily entrenched and quite overly aggressive.
It’s really goddamn preachy. There’s a real sense of superiority a lot of users have that I don’t recall as much on Reddit.
There’s also the fact that small communities are dead and it’s next to impossible to grow them, so you’re stuck with the same people on the front page every day.
I'm left on the political spectrum but by and large y'all fuckers are over the deep end.
especially lemmygrad
I have seen people praising North Korea there lol
The sheer amount of pro-communist/pro-china comments is insane here. Plus the number of giant emojis that spam up the whole comment feed. Honestly, most of my real issues come down strictly to Hexbear users. A lot of their behavior completely ruins the platform for me.
That and the lack of fanbases for the things I like. There's very little Star Wars or Halo fan presence here. Feels like Star Trek is the only fandom with any presence here, so I have to go back to reddit for those things.
Lemmy.world is defederated from hexvear if you're looking to be totally free of them. Obviously you would have to join lemmyworld and some people don't want to do that for various reasons, which is totally fine, but you'll get a ton of content without the spam.
It's VERY noticeable when I'm on an alt account (either to view c/piracy or because the DDOS attacks have .world down) and a hexbear user is in the comments. Defederation was 100% the right decision and I'm eager to block the instance on all my alts when it becomes possible to.
Extremism - Reddit as its share but also has millions of "normies" to balance things out. Here there doesn't seem to be any moderates.
The platform itself is dysfunctional and will prevent any real growth in average users.
Just TOO many Linux fanboys/martyrs, it is a good OS but damn stop trying to go full on religion with it.
The wannabe communists and those trolls from Hexbear.
Linux supremacist and the wannabe commies are pretty annoying.
Other quality of life features would be nice. Like searching for a specific post
Lots more pro CCP shills on here. Smh.
Chill the fuck out with the linux supremacy. I hate windows too but linux is not as friendly and efficient as you think.
Do you have a moment to talk about our God and saviour, Gentoo Linux? /S
Would you like a Linux Mint?
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The amount of people that like to shit on the U.S. constantly... Like damn I get it, we definitely have problems, but people here would have you think it's like the wild wild west over here... I promise I'm not fearing for my life every time I go out.
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The extreme left views (I'm liberal myself but some of the things people say here really have me scratching my head sometimes)
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The amount of Windows bad, Linux good posts.
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The amount of people that immediately shit on Apple because of privacy, but use an Android device that accesses the Google Play store (yes I know you can install custom privacy roms, but let's be real, how many casual users are doing this?)
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People always asking if something is FOSS...
These are just a few off the top of my head.
raises hand slowly
my pixel 7 pro uses grapheneOS. been using it for ~2 years now. loving it a lot.
(broken link BTW) damn, really? feels like 2 years for me lol.
guess I've just got a shitty memory then xD
Super opinionated people who are completely blind to the thing they're discussings shortfalls.
See: anything to do with Linux.
It literally feels like a blast from the past. I remember being on forums in the 90s and early 2000s hearing all this Linux evangelism. Then I say "the second a user has to touch a command line, they're out" and everyone acts like this isn't a reasonable take.
Thankfully though, Linux has evolved and ChromeOS and Android have shown how lower needs users and limited platforms like mobile can use Linux and not have to deal with the complexity of old-school Linux.
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