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TLDR if you don't wanna watch the whole thing: Benaminute (the Youtuber here) creates a fresh YouTube account and watches all recommended shorts without skipping. They repeat this 5 times, where they change their location to a random city in the US.

Below is the number of shorts after which alt-right content was recommended. Left wing/liberal content was never recommended first.

  1. Houston: 88 shorts
  2. Chicago: 98 shorts
  3. Atlanta: 109 shorts
  4. NYC: 247 shorts
  5. San Fransisco: never (Benaminute stopped after 250 shorts)

There however, was a certain pattern to this. First, non-political shorts were recommended. After that, AI Jesus shorts started to be recommended (with either AI Jesus talking to you, or an AI narrator narrating verses from the Bible). After this, non-political shorts by alt-right personalities (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, etc.) started to be recommended. Finally, explicitly alt-right shorts started to be recommended.

What I personally found both disturbing and kinda hilarious was in the case of Chicago. The non-political content in the beginning was a lot of Gen Alpha brainrot. Benaminute said that this seemed to be the norm for Chicago, as they had observed this in another similar experiment (which dealt with long-form content instead of shorts). After some shorts, there came a short where AI Gru (the main character from Despicable Me) was telling you to vote for Trump. He was going on about how voting for "Kamilia" would lose you "10000 rizz", and how voting for Trump would get you "1 million rizz".

In the end, Benaminute along with Miniminuteman propose a hypothesis trying to explain this phenomenon. They propose that alt-right content might be inciting more emotion, thus ranking high up in the algorithm. They say the algorithm isn't necessarily left wing or right wing, but that alt-right wingers have understood the methodology of how to capture and grow their audience better.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

I realized a while back that social media is trying to radicalize everyone and it might not even be entirely the oligarchs that control its fault.

The algorithm was written with one thing in mind: maximizing engagement time. The longer you stay on the page, the more ads you watch, the more money they make.

This is pervasive and even if educated adults tune it out, there is always children, who get Mr. Beast and thousands of others trying to trick them into like, subscribe and follow.

This is something governments should be looking at how to control. Propaganda created for the sole purpose of making money is still propaganda. I think at this point that sites feeding content that use an algorithm to personalize feeds for each user are all compromised.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've gotten more right wing video recommendations on YouTube, even though I have turned off my history. And even if I turned on my history, I typically watch left wing videos.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

The minute I sign out of my account YouTube tries to radicalize me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if anyone of you still looks at memes on 9gag, it once felt like a relatively neutral place but the site slowly pushed right wing content in the last years and is now infested with alt-right and even blatantly racist "memes" and comment-sections. Fels to me like astroturfing on the site to push viewers and posters in some political direction. As an example: in the span during US-election all of a sudden the war on palestine became a recurring theme depicting the Biden admin and jews as "bad actors" and calling for Trump; after election it became a flood of content about how muslims are bad people and we shouldn't intervene in palestine...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

I bet thise right wing shorts are proposed and shoehorned in everywhere because someone pays for the visibility. Simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

From my anecdotal experiences, it's "manly" videos that seem to lead directly to right wing nonsense.

Watch something about how a trebuchet is the superior siege machine, and the next video recommended is like "how DEI DESTROYED Dragon Age Veilguard!"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Or "how to make ANY woman OBEY you!"

Check out a short about knife sharpening or just some cringe shit and you're all polluted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

If they are using a vpn to switch their location, could it be that people in the south are using the same ip to access phub and rightwing crap?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The view farming in shorts makes it even harder to avoid as well. Sure, I can block the JRE channel, for example, but that doesn’t stop me from getting JRE clips from probably day-old accounts which just have some shitty music thrown on top. If you can somehow block those channels, there’s new ones the next day, ad infinitum.

It’s too bad you can’t just disable the tab entirely, I feel like I get sucked in more than I should. I’ve tried browser extensions on mobile which remove the tab, but I haven’t had much luck with PiPing videos from the mobile website, so I can’t fully stop the app.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

There is nothing I click with more alacrity and regularity than the "hide Shorts button."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I keep getting recommendations for content like "this woke person got DESTROYED by logic" on YouTube. Even though I click "not interested", and even "don't recommend channel", I keep getting the same channel, AND video recommendation(s). It's pretty obvious bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (6 children)

You'd think a recommendation algorithm should take your preferences into account - that's the whole justification for tracking your usage in the first place: recommending relevant content for you...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

YOU'D THINK THAT YES. [caps intended]

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

it is. But who said that you get to decide what's relevant for you? Welcome and learn to trust your algorithmic overlords

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Thanks, I hate it

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Anything but the subscriptions page is absolute garbage on that site. Ideally get an app to track your subs without having to have an account. NewPipe, FreeTube etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Are those available on PC/Linux? On my TV? 😭 I have them on my phone but I feel like there's too much hassle to do on my main viewing devices.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

With Milo (miniminuteman) in the thumbnail, I thought the video was going to imsinuate that his content was part of the alt-right stuff. Was confused and terrified. Happily, that was not the case.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So....... in the US then ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's 100% not just the US where the algorithm favours this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Agreed 100%. Whenever I'm in India, I get Hindu nationalist content A LOT. I briefly attempted the dislike/don't recommend thing, but nope! I was getting absolutely spammed with stuff like this regardless. I just disabled shorts after that.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hate the double standards

On a true crime video: "This PDF-File game ended himself after he was caught SAing this individual.... Sorry Youtube forces me to talk like that or I might get demonetized" Flagged for discussing Suicide

On PragerU: "The Transgender Agenda is full of rapists and freaks who will sexually assault your children, they are pedophiles who must be dealt with via final solution!" Completely fucking acceptable!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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