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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Google has told the EU that it will not comply with a forthcoming fact-checking law.

Perfect time to implement sky-high fines for non-compliance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah, but that's why US Big Tech is splooshing cash all over President Felon and hoping he saves them from evil communist European consumer protections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yep, they're hoping Trump will pressure the EU to get rid of their pesky consumer protections. They don't even make any profits for billionaires!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Damn.

Wish the rest of us could just ignore all laws & not face any consequences.

What a fucking joke this entire system is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't have a problem giving someone 100 years for a quarter bag of weed though. For a first time offense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Oh that was long ago. it's for not having a baby if you're female now. Megacorps run usa and now the worst (which is best for some reason) ceo in the history of man will again be president and continue the clear path to government dismantling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Fine the heck out of them then. If they don't pay the fine ban em. Plenty of alternatives out there. More competition in the search engine market would be better anyways.

Not too big of a fan of banning companies as the hurdles should be decently high... Especially if many people rely on their service but if they won't comply with our jurisdiction long term I see this as the only option as fees can not be order of business to pay

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Start criminal proceedings to imprison the leadership responsible for non-compliance. Seize their assets to pay for any fine.

Why do we accept that all solutions to corporate crimes should be fines and kiddie gloves?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is definitely to avoid the ire of fuhrer trump. It's also coincidence that meta is abandoning fact checking right before the new administration

He will sic the dogs of regulation on them if they don't dance to his tune

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

wish the eu would just actually ban american companies there is really no need for them anyway

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Given that we are going full authoritarian fascist now, perhaps the EU should ban Google, given the US tik tok precedent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What a twist. In the 90s, the internet forced countries to wake up to the new modern era. It was a combination of American companies wanting both to expand and provide goodwill.

And now, this new era is going to tell American companies to fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Democracies around the world rightly shouldn't tolerate the blatant corruption and manipulative business practice of American tech companies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Who decides what the facts are?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m OK with this risk. The incredible rise of stupid arguments that we attempt to treat as equal for consideration is unreasonable. If we want to continue having meaningful discourse, we have to remove disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but the question was; who decides what is disinformation? If it was some truly competent and unbiased AI system then I perhaps wouldn't be as concerned about it, though I can see issues with that too, but humans are flawed and I see this as a potenttial slippery slope towards tyranny and censorship.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Imperfect need not be the enemy of good. Failure to combat disinformation is absolutely a path to tyranny, and a lie going halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on is effectively censorship if the truth comes out only by the time the public has lost interest.

Yes, there are problems combating it, but we have to show up to the fight somehow. I’ll take a fallible fact checking system over none at all, because the court of public opinion makes a poor fact checker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who decides what reality is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's pretty bold for a really fucking useless search engine. The EU could just block it and redirect google.com to a gov run searxng instange and everyone in europe would be better off overniggt

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

The eu doesn't it to block the search engine from the internet. It only needs to block the google cash-flow from inside EU to Ireland and then it's shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The government, running a service that doesn't suck? Call me when it happens

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You have become normalized to a country that allows a convicted felon to be president

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

As well as a political party that actively tries to make public services shitty so people won't miss it when it's dismantled.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I live in the nordics, would you like a list?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

List a country with a decent population of like at least 50 mio people that competes with companies successfully and fairly. Countries with a smaller population don't have as much of a bureaucratic overhead. But even there... where do they offer a better service in a fair competition with companies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Google neither competes fairly nor provides a good service. We have to endure them because they have made investment in a competitor uneconomical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I would argue that "bureaucratic overhead" is missing in companies at least as much as it is excess in governments. These double checks and regulations help guard against things like companies externalizing environmental and health impacts. They also act as a check on tendencies towards consolidation (or rather should). Consequently, companies appear to operate more efficiently, but we will have to pay to clean up and handle their externalities eventually.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Google has behind it an incoming US government that puts US economic interests first, and relishes bullying its allies. The EU is weak, divided, and geostrategically boxed in. It will bend the knee.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The EU is weak, divided, and geostrategically boxed in

lol ok

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Have you ever looked at a map? America can just float anywhere

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good, hope they get banned in the EU so people will switch to competitors

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I could see the EU backing down a few years ago, but these days they have watered down any actual advantage in search by filling their results with ads and low quality content. Not that I use Reddit any more, but a good Reddit search engine would probably be better for a lot of use cases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Reddit search engine? Hell nah I want more federated communities. Reddit has a contract with google anyways that blocks out foreign web crawlers.