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Deterioration of the Washington Post’s subscriber base continued on Tuesday, hours after its proprietor, Jeff Bezos, defended the decision to forgo formally endorsing a presidential candidate as part of an effort to restore trust in the media.

The publication has now shed 250,000 subscribers, or 10% of the 2.5 million customers it had before the decision was made public on Friday, according to the NPR reporter David Folkenflik.

A day earlier, 200,000 had left according to the same outlet.

The numbers are based on the number of cancellation emails that have been sent out, according to a source at the paper, though the subscriber dashboard is no longer viewable to employees.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

This was a potential explanation as to why Bezos did that https://lemmy.haley.io/post/1058450

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

I can honestly count myself as one but also never using prime again either.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Billionaires never do anything benevolent. I speculate Bezos is refused the endorsement in case Trump wins and holds a grudge.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Nah, Bezos wants Trump. Lower taxes, less regulation. He knows the backlash would be even worse if he forced an endorsement.

It really is all about the fuckin money.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago

I really wish his wife had gotten the WaPo in the divorce.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I gotta be honest... I don't think news papers should officially endorse a candidate. Report on the issues accurately and call it a day. It reduces the perception of bias.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Editorial boards are strictly segregated from the objective reporters. Except for right wing media anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

True. I guess I can't read... Editorials are open season.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There is literally an entire section called "Opinion", where various columnists give their interpretation of the latest news.

And if they are giving opinions, they should give an opinion about who should be president.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Totally agree on the opinion section. I think if they want to they can opine on their candidate of choice, but I don't see it as a necessity.

Clearly I can't read....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

They want to, but Bezos (who is not a journalist) is preventing them. That's the problem.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Direct your money towards better journalism.

I suggest ProPublica.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

This is key. Follow journalists and editors who leave WaPo and support them wherever they go.

Otherwise this may just be playing into the hand of Bezos to cripple yet another outlet that speaks truth to power.

ProPublica does phenomenal work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 hours ago

It’s good to see the system working like it should for the free press for once; they made a terrible decision and they’re paying for it. Now, if we can just collectively turn our backs on all the disreputable sources and start promoting the reputable ones, we might fix a broken system.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Besos wipes his ass with those 250K subscribers. What he needs is to be stripped of his wealth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Sure he needs to be taxed into dust. But he doesn't own the WaPo because it's making him rich. He runs it because it's a propaganda machine for him.

He lost 10% of his subscribers, almost immediately, when he tried to use it that way openly. Which says:

  • it's now a 10% less effective propaganda machine (and that number will keep growing)
  • it's possible that it was never effective in the first place

Given those two propositions, he might just unload it, which would be nice for the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I don’t imagine they thought that this would literally decimate their subscriber base.*

  • ~yes I made the same joke twice in two different communities. It’s not often you get to use the literal definition of decimate.~
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Unless the former subscribers were executed, that's not the literal definition of decimate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

In a way this is better than an endorsement would've been. Especially because it's acknowledged who the would-be recipient of the endorsement would have been.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 hours ago

So not only has he quite literally decimated their readerbase but he's also made every other newspaper run the story that they were going to endorse Harris anyway, instead of likely just limiting that information to the handful of Washington Post subscribers that cared enough to check. Great quash, Jeff, you really shut that one down.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago

So not only do they loose the direct revenue from the subscribers, but because the readership has fallen significantly & publicly, advertisement revenue is going to fall, too, as the advertisers know the paper isn’t reaching as many readers.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

I have commented how that decision led me to cancel my WaPo subscription which then snowballed into cancellations of Audible, Kindle Unlimited, Prime Video (ad-less), Amazon Photos, etc. Today I was chatting with my wife and she has now discarded the idea of using Blue Origin's satellite based internet access over Starlink. That's fifteen mobile response units where Jeff's space junk won't be considered.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wait… your wife is ditching Kupier, which doesn’t exist yet, because of a single stunt Bezos pulled, but Starlink, run by the guy funding Trump’s election campaign, is still in the running?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ditching the idea of transitioning to Kupier once available, yes. For now, most of the units are suspended (zero cost) until needed. My hope is that other options become available.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh man wait until you learn about Buc-ees

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Bucees going into satellite internet? I'm lost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Giant squirrel satellites with glowing red eyes staring down at Earth

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Blue Origin isn't planning any satellite internet projects.

There is Amazon's Project Kuiper, which aims to bring Starlink-like Internet using a constellation of 3,000 satellites, but currently they have zero satellites in orbit (and the two prototypes they launched were ULA launches).

If/when Kuiper matures, Bezos owns less of Amazon than Musk owns of SpaceX, so if your goal is to keep as little of your money out of these men's hands as you can, Kuiper might be the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Great information, thank you. My use of the Blue Origin name is my mistake. Regardless, the original goal was to ditch Starlink. Hopefully we will be able to do so.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't Starlink Musk's outfit?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, it is. It is very hard to escape having relations with capitalist conglomerates in most sectors, in some it is impossible. That is why having political control of the State is the only way of the working class to control the billionaires, if the economy side of society is not radically altered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

We need to go back to guilds. Imagine a worker owned and managed rocket guild

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, and we are desperate to ditch it. The idea was to switch to ~~Blue Origin~~ Amazon's Project Kuiper as soon as it became available. Now it's fucked if we do and fucked if we don't.

That said, fourteen of the Starlink units are suspended until needed, which means no monthly payments.

EDIT: I mistakenly called the satellite project Blue Origin.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Totally fair. And there are definitely reasons to dislike Bezos but on the which of the two is worse... Going Musk over Bezos feels a little.like the folks claiming trump will be better for Palestineans. Bezos didn't let his paper endorse trump, Musk is full on bribing people, campaign rallying for trump etc.

But to each their own, like I said, plenty of reasons to dislike Bezos.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

To him, I’m sure it’s an acceptable loss.

If Amazon Prime and AWS cancellations hit a significant level over this, that would have more of an impact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

He also knows most companies won’t cancel their AWS

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago

Yup, he'll lose more revenue than those 10% WaPo subscribers under Harris. If Harris raises Amazon's taxes half a percent, this loss would become rounding error. Bezos wants Trump to win and wants to be Trump's friend for his own financial gain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Sadly, that's chump change for him. 250k sub's at $120/yr comes out to $30M/yr. That's ~ 0.015% of his net wealth. Better than nothing though.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 hours ago

I believe that the main reason for people as wealthy as him to own newspapers is not the money, it's the influence. This does hurt that

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