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The reason we don’t see exploding battery attacks more often is not because it’s technically hard, it’s because the erosion of public trust in everyday things isn’t worth it. (www.bunniestudios.com)
submitted 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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edit: after 20 comments, i'm adding a post description here, since most of the commenters so far appear not to be reading the article:

This is about how surprisingly cheap it is (eg $15,000) to buy a complete production line to be able to manufacture batteries with a layer of nearly-undetectable explosives inside of them, which can be triggered by off-the-shelf devices with only their firmware modified.

screenshot of paragraph from the article saying "The process to build such batteries is well understood and documented. Here is an excerpt from one vendor’s site promising to sell the equipment to build batteries in limited quantities (tens-to-hundreds per batch) for as little as $15,000:" followed by a screenshot of "Flow-chart of Pouch Cell Lab-scale Fabrication" showing a 20 step process

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Sending out IEDs that will probably explode in a supermarket and kill civilians is generally considered a war crime. So far 2 kids killed in Beirut by the Israeli bombs in devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 minutes ago

Context: bunniestudios.com is run by bunnie, the guy who was involved with the hardware side of breaking DRM on the original XBox; he later went into consumer electronics manufacturing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 43 minutes ago

We don't see exploding batteries more because most militaries are better about securing their supply chain.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Even though your edit clarified it, I wish we’d stop calling them “exploding batteries”. The battery isn’t the explosive, it’s the explosives that were hidden in the device. I’ve already encountered far too many morons describing conspiracies where the big bad government could make your iPhone explode.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Title felt misleading.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm saving this. Not because I want to make bombs, but if it really is that easy to make lithium batteries then knowing about the process will be beneficial someday. It's hard to find information about how rechargeable batteries work. You probably couldn't even make a lead acid battery from raw materials using just information on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

But I don't want my devices to be bombs

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 hours ago

I don't think terrorists care about the people's trust in everyday things

[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Jfc Christ Lemmy.

Every single comment misunderstanding the point. The batteries are exploding because there's explosives in them. This does make them exploding batteries. The explode because they are partially made with explosives. Please don't well actually this.

No this is not a description of something Israel did, it's a hypothetical way to do a similar attack to show how within reach of idiot terrorists it is.

Raising the idea of doing this so everyone is thinking about it is extremely bad for us all. Thanks Israel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That does not make them exploding batteries, it had explosives in them. A suicide bomber is not an explosive human.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 55 minutes ago

A suicide bomber is not an explosive human but they are an exploding human.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They're batteries. And they are explosive because of the explosives in them. They are discrete things that are explosives.

You're trying to make a weird, un-useful, pedantic distinction here.

Comment you replied to was making a far more useful correction, because people did not read the article.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

It's a needed distinction because the Israeli committed more war crimes with what they did.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Please don't well actually this.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

JFC Christ, does anyone know where the nearest ATM Machine is?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

I think there may be a couple edits needed in your comment. Reread slowly and get back to us.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

No, it doesn't. The battery itself is not the source of the explosion, it's the explosive hidden inside it.

A regular battery cannot be made to explode in this way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Jfc Christ Lemmy.Every single comment misunderstanding the point.

Pedantics fighting pedantics LOL

The batteries are exploding because there's explosives in them. This does make them exploding batteries.

And when you put the same explosives inside a barbie doll and make it go off, then it wasn't an exploding barbie doll. Or was it? ;-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Pedantics fighting pedantics LOL

I think you mean "pedants fighting pedants" :p

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Fun fact, a group of pedants is called a flem. To use it in a sentence: "the party was ruined by a flem of pedants".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And also because it's impossible.

So it is actually in fact very hard. What they had was exploding explosives which are not hard.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 hours ago

Since apparently many people aren't reading the article: It is about how cheap it actually is (eg $15,000) to buy a complete production line to be able to manufacture batteries with a layer of nearly-undetectable explosives inside of them, which can be triggered by off-the-shelf devices with only their firmware modified.

screenshot of paragraph from the article saying "The process to build such batteries is well understood and documented. Here is an excerpt from one vendor’s site promising to sell the equipment to build batteries in limited quantities (tens-to-hundreds per batch) for as little as $15,000:" followed by a screenshot of "Flow-chart of Pouch Cell Lab-scale Fabrication" showing a 20 step process

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