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Was tempted to call this "Debate 2: Electric Boogaloo" but a) A lot of Lemmy won't get the OG reference. and 2) "Boogaloo" has been co-opted and carries an unfortunate connotation these days.

Also, while it's Trump's 2nd debate of the season, it's Harris's first...

It's being run by ABC News at 9 PM Eastern time, 6 PM Pacific, I see MSNBC starts their coverage TWO HOURS EARLY. That's a lot of air time to fill, guys. Good luck!

Live updates, how and when to watch, debate rules, etc. here:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/

Link to the first debate thread here:

https://lemmy.world/post/16973660

That't it! Thanks for hanging with it everbody!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That debate was terrible. Harris pivoted anytime pushed with past positions and glazed war criminals. Trump has no plans or ideas for anything, and is terrible.

"i have concepts of a plan." is one of the funniest things Trump has ever said. I have to use that one next time I don't turn in work.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well that was just sad to watch. The take away, Trump has concepts.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago

There won't be another debate, lol.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 months ago (13 children)

So here are my thoughts:

  • First, the obvious: Harris won handily. She was in her element, and just thoroughly excoriated Trump at every turn, while maintaining an optimistic tone.
  • But at the same time, Trump is probably not losing any of his base over his abysmal performance. Most of them probably didn't watch, and the few that did probably tuned out in favor of reading conservative bloggers' desperate spinning about halfway through.
  • The real question is how off-putting he's been for undecideds. He was pretty bad, but I'm aware enough of my own biases to wonder exactly how bad his behavior looks to undecideds.
  • On the issues, Harris didn't really have a stumble. I was pleasantly surprised by how well she handled the issue of Israel/Palestine, for example.
  • The moderators get a B for following up questions, a C- for mic handling, and an A- for calling it out when Trump's bizarre, rambling bullshit failed to even vaguely resemble an answer.

All in all, I didn't hate this (other than the sound of Trump's face hole).

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I don't know how anyone can watch this and not feel Trump is exposed as being nonsensical and vindictive. I feel hopeful that Kamala is changing plenty of undecided minds, though I wish she'd been able to expand more on policy and less on Trump's lies.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Old racist man yells at clouds.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Normal energy plants are normal

[–] [email protected] 114 points 3 months ago (7 children)

“Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.”

— Former President Donald J. Trump

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Castrate the unmarried illegal immigrants, for Jesus!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Captivating speech from Kamala. I really hope Kamala wins this election

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

He's looking forward to hitting the beach

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 3 months ago (2 children)

OMG Trump is off the rails and i absolutely love it!

Moderator: "Just to be clear, you have a plan? "

Trump: "I have concepts of a plan?"

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Just wish moderators would have the spine to hold Trump to the rules and just keep his mic muted and move on.

Maybe it is in the benefit of Harris given his rambling but I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I expected nothing of ABC and am still disappointed. I think Harris could have done better, but production just doing their bare minimum job as journalists would have made a huge difference.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Harris exceeded high expectations and Trump failed to meet incredibly low expectations.

Let the spin begin, but I saw what I saw.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

She's been fucking relentless. She spoke to him directly about how terrible he's been, I could hardly stay heated. That shit had to cut deep. She let each point sink in slowly....

Trump's going to need a burn unit after this...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Trump is on Hunter Biden. That's totally relevant to this debate vs Biden....oh fuck...wait...it's Harris now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Oh! I think I’ve got a bingo!

Col2

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Hunter Harris

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

She is Biden!!!

Apparently.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I live near Detroit. They are building an auto factory down the street from me where the Pistons used to play. That's not in Mexico

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The Palace of Auburn Hills. The Silverdome is now an Amazon facility.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago

Whoops, he's debating Biden again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Carrier says what?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Please please explain tariffs to this man!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"We are going to have the best economy, she is Joe Biden and we had the highest inflation we've ever seen" - Trump

"Let's compare your economic plan with mine, we're giving tax breaks to small business."

Also, going back to the previous point that Trump lied about several times, Harris nailing the rebuff of Trump's lies that usually just go unchecked on painting Harris as a person that wants to steal guns. Very good.

Also also, Trump's entire closing statement stated one positive thing he did (we rebuilt our military) and the rest of the time was saying why Harris was bad. Harris positioned herself well here.

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