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Donald Trump has been accused of violating federal law by allegedly calling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss the ceasefire deal the U.S. is helping negotiate between Israel and Hamas.

The former president allegedly made the call on August 14, according to Axios, which cited two unnamed "U.S. sources who were briefed on the call."

If Trump did make the call, he would potentially be breaking the law as the Logan Act, enacted in 1799, prohibits unauthorized private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on behalf of the U.S.

American Muckrakers, an organization that states it seeks to hold politicians and officials accountable, has filed a request with the U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Department of State.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Trump crime? Just throw it on the pile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Great? It's not like Democrats are interested in putting him in jail. They have a living, breathing bogeyman to threaten people with so they can dismiss scrutiny for damned near anything with a "Do you want trump again?"

[–] [email protected] 189 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Until I see a picture of Trump behind bars I will continue to assume he will continue to get away with everything forever.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago

The only truthful thing he has ever said was "I could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose supporters."

Implied is that he also wouldn't get arrested for it.

Tie his bullshit with the recent articles about the pathetic FBI being afraid to go after Republican domestic terrorists and it's just beyond absurd. "Home of the brave" my ass.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Nah, that could be AI generated. I won't know it's real until his first instinct is to immediately say that it should have been Hillary behind bars in a video clip, then I'll know it's really him

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mr. Netanyahu sir, if your support gets a Republican majority in the 2 houses and me back into the Presidency I promise we will give you so much bombs. The best bombs. Bigly. Nobody would get as many bombs as you.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dear right-wing dipshits who like to use the name Genocide Joe. Your orange turd wanna be emperor is actively sabotaging ceasefires and potential peace of said-genocide just to make current administration look bad. Donnie Death

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Right wingers don't call him Genocide Joe, they LOVE the Palestinian deaths. It's the "he's not far enough left" people like .ml folks who use the name Genocide Joe

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

will he get MASSIVE nothing as a consequence this time?!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Reagan did the same thing with Iran. Nobody blinked.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And Nixon did the same with Vietnam.

Being an opportunistic, amoral psycho who works to undermine the safety of Americans is practically a Republican presidential tradition at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He did, but I think it only came to light after his brain was soup. Unless I am wrong and carter was aware earlier.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

New bits of evidence have been popping up over the decades, seemingly last in 2020. Much of the physical evidence has been long destroyed, and most of the people involved are now dead and gone and I wouldn't call many of the people with supposed first-hand accounts reliable people to begin with. I just read through this article to refresh myself on the details and to see the latest updates.

The personal accounts and evidence we do have doesn't leave much room for the truth to be anything but that the Reagan/Bush campaign was involved, and that Daddy Bush likely had enough evidence he should have turned over to prove it, but today we would still likely not have enough to convict anyone, especially in the current political scene. There wasn't much there about if Reagan himself was involved, the story made it sound as if he didn't, but everyone around him certainly did. I don't feel that negates him from responsibility for his people's actions, but I do feel that is a difference worth mentioning.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

A criminal commiting crimes, not suprised. He won't get punished for it, and I'll not be surprised about that either

They'll probably say this is not a violation of the Logan act since trump is just "discussing about the ceasefire", not negotiating.

But this is clearly a violation because this conversation could greatly change the war and US-Israel relationships

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Lol...no was was that call to accept the ceasefire deal. It was...wait until after the election, then take the deal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

i thought we all collectively realized that reporting on trump actions reported by "unnamed sources" doesn't do anything to harm his campaign?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Add it to the pile of crimes that he will likely never be punished for or the Justice system will bend over backwards to give him every available courtesy, while any “normal” person would be rotting in a prison cell already.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry merric garland will issue a strongly worded letter of condemnation and then do fuck-all about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Mueller can make another lengthy report with no recommendations.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 months ago

If the USA had the balls to enforce the laws as they have in the past this idiot would be executed for treason. Turns out fascism is a great tool you can use to avoid consequences as the State shudders at the terrorist following you've gathered and refuses to take action.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Ah man. I can only wish that the Orange Idiot and Netanyahu somehow, eventually, reap what they've been sowing for decades now. Not holding my breath of course, but the amount of schadenfreude I'd feel would probably verge on orgasmic.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

Nixon and Reagan did it, this is normal for a GOP presidential candidate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The former president allegedly made the call on August 14, according to Axios, which cited two unnamed "U.S. sources who were briefed on the call."

The next day, however, Netanyahu's office denied that the call took place.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Still waiting for tokenboomer, linkerbaan, return2ozma et al to say anything about this. I'll just hold my breath for a second...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

See, this is 4th dimensional chess. Trump knows that Bidens deal would be bad for Palestine and only Trump can get a better one. So akshually this is a good thing. /s

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Well, the nickname is Genocide Joe, not Genocide Don, so obviously it's Biden's fault that Trump is sabotaging the ceasefire deals!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Of COURSE! It's so obvious, how could i miss it?!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Good

This means hell run the whole, "Only I had the balls to blah blah blah"

And if the democrats want to continue their strong run, they'll have to be on top of action toward it as well. He's a useful idiot sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Trump is a walking hate crime so no surprise here.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Logan act has never been prosecuted. Could have gotten Reagan on it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

It was prosecuted twice. Both times before the Civil War. But nobody has ever actually been convicted.

Things are different today. Prosecutors realize that a law criminalizing the act of negotiating is probably going to run into First Amendment issues.

[–] [email protected] 238 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Republicans and ratfucking peace talks during an inhumane war of territorial expansion to make their political opponent look bad. Name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's completely unfair, you couldn't name ~~one~~ ~~two~~ seven...let's go with seven other examples of that!

/s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure Bush junior could fulfill your list all by himself.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Israel is already denying it so unless phones are bugged (they won't admit this) there won't be any physical evidence unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

FTFY Donald Trump ~~Accused of Commitedting~~ commited 'Massive Crime' ~~With Reported Phone Call~~

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Donald Trump ~~Accused of Commitedting~~ 'Massive Criminal' ~~With Reported Phone Call~~

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

And it isn't just Israel, also Poland and Hungary at least.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Donald Trump ~~Accused of Commitedting~~ commited 'Massive Crime' ~~With Reported Phone Call~~ Again.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I look forward to him receiving absolutely zero consequences because why would anything he did ever result in the slightest inconvenience for him?

I don't believe in god, but Trump makes me think that crossroads demons could be real.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Massive Crime... in his pants. The biggest crime. Yuuuge.

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