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President Biden said he is "not confident at all" that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in January 2025 if former President Donald Trump is defeated.

"He means what he says. We don't take him seriously. He means it. All the stuff about 'If we lose, there'll be a bloodbath, it'll have been a stolen [election],'" Mr. Biden told CBS News chief election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa in his first sit-down interview since announcing he was dropping out of the 2024 presidential race and endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. The interview will air on "CBS News Sunday Morning" on Sunday, Aug. 11.

"Look what they're trying to do now in the local election districts where people count the votes," said Mr. Biden. Repeating a familiar maxim about elections and democracy, the president said, "You can't love your country only when you win."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It doesn't matter. The vp has the ability to arbitrarily change the election outcome. RIGHT DONNIE?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

So another attack on the Capitol, ha. Handle it better at least, Joe

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Well, you're the boss. Prepare for what you expect, and lock the rioters up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Well of course not. We've already seen them practice.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I love all the closet right wingers thinking some fat ass country loving civilians with guns is going to overtake a country by itself.

The only reason anything happened last time is that agent orange was facilitating the insurrection from the inside. Now its just a bunch of idiots who maybe have guns.

So... America?

Whatever, just get the military ready in case they try.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's wishful thinking, they have put up far more infrastructure around state election counting than any previous election, the shady shit with batches of votes going missing from 20 years ago is nothing compared to what they're doing nowadays. They will do anything to shift vote counting and then cast doubt about the legitimacy enough that they can send it to the supreme court again. It happened before with Bush v Gore with much less shady dealing and a much less stacked supreme court than they have set up now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I appreciate the nonchalance but the help agent orange offered from the inside was calling off some guards for a little bit and mostly just not making a speech telling his fans to calm down. The fact is that January 6th was a pretty disorganized protest that turned into a riot due to a handful of instigators and what we discovered is that the capitol building is not routinely well protected and only avoided riots like this because they hadn't happened.

Which is a good thing. Public institutions should be kept safe because they serve the people well enough that no one wants to take them over. Not because they employ an overwhelming police force to keep the public out. (The original intent was that citizens would be able to just walk around most of these buildings if they wanted to see the government functioning, imagine that eh?)

Now, obviously, DC is going to be on lockdown during inauguration day (as it should be) with a lot more military/police presence. But my point is that if an actually semi-organized militia had been there on Jan 6th with just a few more pistols and some designated leaders and organizers, they would have easily made it into the capitol even if trump had actually done everything to stop them. They would have been massacred in the resulting conflict as the US military sent its full force at them ofc but it would have been a much more consequential day.

This isn't me going to bat for anyone, the right wing militias are pitiful both in numbers and training. It's just that I think the potential for danger and bloodshed when these guys finally snap and make their desperate bid for attention will be a little more violent than I see people seem to think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You know, during the Baltimore riot, the rioters who were destroying shit, killed a few people, etc all were content to riot. Up until the APC's and the military showed up, it stopped within minutes. Source: I saw it happen.

Once you see what a Humvee and APC tank squadron looks like looks like, your shitty AR15 isn't going to make you feel strong. What are you going to do, randomly shoot into a crowd of other Trump idiots? Rush the whitehouse with guns? Who will be in there this time?

What if they got inside and it was just the army standing inside? What then? Are they randomly going to shoot at the army? Whats the game plan, because that would be a first.

You have to think that this time we know, and with preparation it won't be an issue. Just be smart about it, because we already know about the last coup attempt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You... Didn't read my post. I wonder what exactly you assumed I said?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I think you're not considering what a bunch of cowardly giant man babies they all are.

Remember who when one of them got shot they started yelling "Active shooter!" when it was a fucking SS agent or cop or something who fired the shot?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Umm what does trump have to do with the transfer of power if he does not win? What’s he gonna do? He has no power.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He has no power?

He has a fucking rabid cult of gun toting neonazis he has been stoking another insurrection to for years. Which is Biden's point here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh please try with guns. Those people need deleted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Fake electors, compromised voting officials, and likely another terrorist attack.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

See, this is how smart it was Biden not running again.

I completely forgot he existed, and has just been chugging along doing president things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

not to mention he flubbed even this question. he said if he wins first, then corrected himself to say loses. I'm so glad he's not on the ticket anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The headline makes it sound like he's not gonna let Kamala take his place... 🤔

As for his actual words, Joe's right, Trump's not going down easy. The good news is that Donnie isn't in power now, and won't be in charge of the Federal response to whatever unfolds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Right. If dementia donnie's right-wing chuds want to try some shit, I hope Biden does some Dark Brandoning on their dumb asses. And then Kamala needs to put someone in charge who will not dither one bit when it comes to going after them legally after that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It actually gets really complicated if the damage he does is at the state or local level. A "coup" in the US capital is probably no longer a possibility, but he could cause a lot of chaos if he got a couple dozen scattered enclaves of lawless resistance to lawful voting procedures, and they didn't back down. Are we gonna send national troops to half a dozen different states to make them obey? Is that even constitutionally feasible?

Anywhere we have the slightest doubt about that, we have to act now--Biden has to act now--to guarantee good-faith election management and fallbacks in case it doesn't happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

While I agree, I would prefer them not giving it air time. Or better making fun of those suggesting violence and making them look foolish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I understand Joe Biden here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Maybe if we had an Attorney-General who did things other than try to ensure he gets into nice country clubs we'd do something about this.

Too bad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Project 2025 wants to slash military/veterans benefits and it seems most of the military knows about it now. I think we'll be alright so long as Harris wins the election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Fortunately, he won't be in power if he loses, so his expected Joe Six-pack rioters won't have the federal government backing them up this time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

A barricade of couches around the white house will stop trump and JD in their tracks... But for different reasons.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If only he had access to the largest police and surveillance apparatus in the history of ever. Maybe he could, y’know, prevent the inevitable bullshit and bloodletting.

Trumps lies about 2020 were such outrageous bullshit anyway, there wasn’t a single solitary shred of a molecule of truth in any of it. ZERO TOLERANCE, ZERO PATIENCE for that fucking guy and his inevitable bullshit parade.

Fool me once . . . shame on . . . shame on you . . fool me twice . . Y- . . Y’can’t get fooled again.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hell, i’m not confident there’d be a peaceful transfer of power if he wins

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Chances are high it will not be peaceful for anyone on his stupid enemies list AFTER the transfer of power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Wait, you mean Diaper Don wants to attempt political prosecution? I always thought he was opposed to that kinda stuff...

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