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Just bought box wine the other day cuz I knew I had to have a super uncomfortable conversation that could not be avoided and I needed to be anaesthetized for it

It worked and I know in retrospect I really needed it to be that way

Edit/Update: person I had convo with just texted me and apologized for combativeness and I mutually apologized for not dealing with it sooner and we're along and on to solution mode. The system works, please dont drink if you dont have too but dont forbid yourself from using a tool to improve your situation and try to always be honest. The less you lie or hide, the less influence you will have to unnecessarily drink

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Oh absolutely. I don't drink much outside parties (less and less nowadays) but I like having a stiff drink sometimes before doing something laborious or something requiring a bit of creativity. Nothing like a glass of whisky while messing around with the homelab servers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Not exactly like that but I don't drink very often but decide to before like state of the unions now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I strategically drink every day

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a strategical drinker!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Not anymore after reading up on how bad alcohol is for us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It was 72 degrees wet bulb in my city a few days ago and I picked a cocktail with aloe vera, lychee, and other stuff bc I knew it would be more refreshing than something else

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I would never do this, because alcohilism runs in my family, and I'd be afraid to become dependend. That said, I know not everyone has the same risk to become an alcoholic, so if it helps and you can manage, do what you have to, life is hard enough as it is sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I have a drink before my DnD sessions as it loosens me up and brings me out of my shell a bit. I imagine that could be called strategic drinking.

As long as you're not relying on alcohol just to get through the day, and you can function well in your life without it, there's nothing wrong with having a drink before a tough conversation.

Humans have been using alcohol as a social lubricant for thousands of years. That doesn't make it safe, but it's also not a great evil, in moderation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This is how you become an alcoholic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A box of wine is a large amount. Do you drink in order to be able to socialize in all ways?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I bought and started on it, haven't finished it haha

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When did you buy it, and how long ago? I'm asking, because I'm seeing my old patterns for forcing social interaction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have regular like daily light hearted interaction with them, just had a couple old matters I had to settle and come clean about and it was fine just tense

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes, that's not necessarily bad in and of itself. But there's a difference between having one or two glasses and consuming half a box. I'm just wondering where you're at.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Better now that I got it out of the way. Omissions (like lies) compound like interest mentally

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is good, I'm glad you eased tensions with them. May I ask how much you drink on a daily basis? Only if you desire to share.

The reason why I'm being so persistent with this is because when I started voicing concerns to my "friends" about my alcohol consumption (when I still had something of a handle on it), they said "nah, you're fine." They just wanted someone to party with, they didn't want to deal with my concerns.

Now that I'm on the other side of alcoholism, I just want to be that voice for someone else, because it looks like you're asking the same question in a roundabout way.

"Am I drinking too much?" is you warning yourself and seeking help, at least in my experience. Even if you don't share how much you're having, if you're feeling concerned about it, please talk with someone in person who you know cares, and will take your concerns seriously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Zero daily, its more episodic in terms of when i need to handle the occasional overwhelming thing like that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

When it's dealing with uncomfortable situations, do you need to binge it, like have more than a few?

That's a form of binge drinking. Once again, I'm just giving you the information. I'm not trying to make the choice for you. Please just take my words into account. I believe that you're in control and can make your own decisions with this.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, millions of people for thousands of years have done something like this. It's called liquid courage for a reason. I used to give myself exact small doses of alcohol to loosen up my introversion before social situations. If your job depends on it, it's basically a performance enhancer.

Not promoting alcoholism here, despite what I'm sure lots of comments will say. Personally, I barely drink at all anymore because it's gotten really hard on my body. Just giving a different viewpoint. There's so much addict pearl-clutching in here. Plenty of people can and do use drugs and alcohol responsibly. If you "don't need" them, great. If responsible doses help you live better, great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Given the fact that they said they need the equivalent of FOUR bottles of wine to have an uncomfortable conversation, it's a red flag.

You're right, many people can consume things in moderation, but when you see warning signs like that, warning them isn't a form of pearl clutching so much as "dude, be careful."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, did they say they consumed a whole box of boxed wine? Or just that they bought one? Could have also been on of those cartons that is the equivalent of about 2 glasses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Generally speaking, when I've seen someone speak about a box of wine, it's the 3L one, not the smaller ones.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

If they drank the whole damn thing that night, then agreed, that's a red flag. OP didn't say that though. Maybe they can clarify.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I had the opposite situation several times. Conversations that involved fair quantities of alcohol derailed gradually, and afterwards I realized everyone's attitude had shifted in a more aggressive direction, including my own. So this wouldn't be a useful strategy for myself 😊.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

fair enough

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

That’s a sign of unmanaged dependency.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago

No, but I don't drink strategically. If you need to have a hard conversation or do something difficult, you should probably have your whole brain in use.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Hey man, I downvoted but i wanted to tell you why. My family has multiple alcoholics. I’m not judging you at all, but i a wanted to encourage you to find other coping mechanism. Alcohol is very dangerous, especially when used that way. Be safe, bro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I like heroin personally.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I understand, more of an AUD dude and its welm-managed, especially since ive been low sugar

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

For conversations I need to have, I rehearse in my head and mutter quips to myself to prepare myself for all contingencies.

This isn't so I will say these words to the person, but more that I'm convincing myself and arming my mouth when my brain wanders off as it is wont to do.

On the actual day, I drink a soothing tea and don't say anything unless the uncomfortable topic is brought up. If people clock onto my calm confidence, they usually don't instigate.

I've learned from early on that people prey only on those they perceive weak, but to pre-emptively strike is to invite ruin. So I prepare and stay quiet.

Beer would ruin that planning as I am a lightweight

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