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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This plank also believes that Trump won the election...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

No, he's a lying toerag. He says that Trump won but he thinks ordinary people are stupid and will believe him because he's so blokey. Turd.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

On one hand, Farage is a massive cunt, an enemy of the state, and the man responsible for irreparable damage to UK politics due to Brexit.

On the other, if Reform is going to run against the Tories, there's a real opportunity his tinpot party takes the Gammon/flag-shagger vote away from Sunak's populist run as Tory leader, and in a month we see the Tory party get absolutely annihilated.

Years ago, I said that it was quite sad to see that Conservative's had lost their party to the populism of the Boris era, because many MP's that wanted to see a strong union (bear in mind the full name of the Tories is the Conservative and Unionist Party) were expelled from the party and ostracised to make room for grifters under BoJo. While I'm no conservative, many voters value conservatism in their politics, and while I don't like Starmer much either, he's basically the closest thing to a Conservative AND a Liberal in major party politics in the UK.

My vote is probably with the Greens this year, but in many areas Labour should absolutely destroy the Tories, hopefully to the point where they become the third or fourth party in the UK.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nigel Farage should be considered, then, an enemy-agent within everywhere in NATO.

Period.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Are people denying Russia was provoked? That seems like basics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Farage presumably sympathises with the milkshake throwers, who only did so because they'd been provoked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't we dunk em in milkshake every time he lies?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a waste of milkshake. We should be dunking him in something much less edible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

doesn't need to be a fresh vat of milkshake every time.. just reuse until no longer liquid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't wait for the day Nigel Farage can no longer claim anything tbh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His gravestone will read, it was all the EUs fault. He can't let it go. He is both talentless and an egomaniac, it makes for an annoying combination.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

The said stone may smell of piss. If it does not, I’ll be quite happy to oblige.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, yes. But he chose to be provoked by it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Strong "she was wearing a skirt so she asked to get raped" energy from this douchebag.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

So she asked to get milkshaked

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It's always interesting watching the far fringes of left and right come to the same conclusions, almost as if the same person had laid the trail of propaganda pointing to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Thought experiment if Farage had a come to Greta moment and because an environmental activitist. Would his fans follow him or would he be dumped.

Does Farage stir the people or is he just riding the current?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

He simps for Trump, Which tells you all you need to know about his followers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I think the latter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Fuck off frog face.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Instead of trying to screw over our country anymore, why don’t you just go and enlist?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Norm Finkelstein took this position, arguing that NATO encroaching on the Russian border was provocation. I didn't agree or disagree because I don't know enough about geopolitics to consider myself informed on the matter. His case was persuasive, however, if not at least interesting. I generally consider him pretty level-headed, so it was worth the listen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It's completely true, which isn't a defence of the Russian invasion. It's just objective fact. Doesn't take the responsibility away from Russia either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Joe Biden warned of this in the 90s: https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-resurfaced-clip-russia-baltic-states-1997-video-1685864

Saying that Russia's actions are abhorrent and also saying that NATO expansion has given Russia an excuse are two perfectly legitimate viewpoints to hold.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Russia is the abusive ex-boyfriend that can't accept the relationship is over. That's also the reason many of the rightwing asswipes defend russia, they identify with russia's actions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Russia is the remains of an empire whose head is longing after past glories. It's all about Putin's ego and not accepting Russia's role in the world of today.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i wonder what nigel's h*xbear account is?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Oh the fucking gymnastics they'll be concocting now!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think what has been enlightening about this election is seeing how many 'own goals' the Reform party are scoring now that they've been given enough rope to hang themselves with. It reminds me of when they let Nick Griffon on Question Time back in 2009/10 and he absolutely withered under scrutiny.

Yes, there will be a hardcore of people who are going to vote for Reform - maybe even because of gaffes like this. However this is repellent to the wider electorate. Imagine if they were semi-competent and just ran as populist Tories without letting the mask slip immediately. Personally, I'd be much more concerned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Reform Party is doing better than Tories atm. If we had a PR or other similar voting system, The Reform Party would get a lot of seats and would consume Tories. The wider electorate wants this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Eh, they are predicted get even fewer votes than the conservatives are. The conservatives are due to get a pathetic number of votes for a mainline party, and reform are getting even fewer votes.

In no universe are they doing better than the conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

You should differentiate between votes and seats, because FPTP. Some predictions say that RP can get more votes than LD, but even in the best case scenario with as many votes as possible they can only secure 4-5 seats tops. Tories on the other hand should have enough votes for second place, but in reality they have a very high chance of getting less seats than LD. There's a potential that duopoly will shift to Labour + LD. But RP might become number 3 even with just 4 seats as they're likely to consume Tories politically over the next few years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are too many stupid people who believe everything he says. More milkshakes please.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

issue is his supporters will see milkshake and think left wing elite. We need a farmer with a muck spreader.

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