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Wait.
The applications for "NOSLEEP" and "R/NOSLEEP" were filed by Reddit Inc in... August 3, 2018?
And "THE NO SLEEP PODCAST" by Creative Reason Media (the actual publishers of the podcast) was filed in August 5, 2016, but... got dismissed or abandoned?
...What?
One more reason I'm done with Reddit.
Is it in the TOS somewhere that anything created or posted on their site essentially belongs to them?
The POS are always in the TOS
Imagine the balls it takes to take user-created forum names and register them as trademarks.
Nosleep is fucking podcast they can't own that name can they? Nor Shower thoughts and damn sure TIL.
I don't even think most of these would hold up in court unless they add "r/" in front of them. Reddit reserves the non-exclusive right to use user content however they want, and I don't think this includes making user-submitted phrases their trademarks. I haven't read the ToS though so another clause might reserve this right too. There might be a claim to words like "subreddit", "r/" and "RPAN" and derivatives because they are based off the "Reddit" trademark.
I'm sure the fine upstanding folks working so earnestly as corporate lawyers will think of something. :D
Some truly goofy goobers
....Isn't.... "Explain Like I'm Five" an Office reference first?
None of these would stand up to scrutiny in court.
This.
You can try to trademark a lot of things, doesn't mean it will hold, especially if there have been prior uses (which there have been for just about all of them)
U.S. court system: "Providing a trademark for these would be an instance of gross negligence and general abuse of copyright law to provide a corporation with no genuine claim to these references carte blanche use and legal guarantee of sole ownership of them. So we're going to do that because we're functionally an engine of capital and not actually a mechanism of justice."
I get the feeling that the US copyright is largely being operated on a pinky swear basis. For example - the current copyright on the original Bitcoin whitepaper is held by a well known con artist, simply because he was the first to register it.
Time to switch to Explain Me Like I'm Six then
Explain like im still a redditor
I remember when r/natureisfuckinglit was created, it's relatively new sub, there was a cool photo on r/earthporn, some dude commented "nature is fucking lit", someone else commented there should be a sub for this and the next person created the sub
That dude signed a contract, said anything he writes belongs to Reddit in all mediums and in perpetuity.
I mean that would hardly hold up to a challenge fir inadequate consideration. The value of all intellectual property in perpetuity is easily worth far more than access to the reddit website.
Nah, you get to use the website. Access to a computer system in exchange for IP created with it is a pretty open and shut case. The value doesn't have to be equal, it just can't be unconscionable. Buyer beware.
- RPAN (actual subreddit name is R/PAN but they messed up the word mark for the registration I think.)
They didn't mess up, it was called RPAN from the start. And that's something Reddit launched, so it makes sense they'd trademark it.
Where does one mail a cease and desist for a non-centralized network?
To yourself.
I assume you'd go to the owner of the instance that hosts that particular community.
Torrents and Federated sites: they can't give us all a speeding ticket if we're all speeding
Wasn’t ELI5 a line from the Office?
Yup. That episode aired December 2008. r/explainlikeim5 was created in 2012. Can't tell when r/eli5 was created, as it's now private.
Eli5 went private?!
AM I THE ASSHOLE?
Yes.