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Prevent it from happening in the first place my voting. It sounds like a lot of people have already given up before the election has even started.

Continue living in California, and probably not go to any red state. At least not with my wife. Continue to vote Democrat and spread progressive values.

I live in Texas and i work in public education. That said, I'm in a mostly blue bubble, I have a pretty good retirement fund, and I'm unlikely to get pregnant. My school district is still mostly reasonably run (by idiots, but not magas, just regular idiots) but we're feeling the budget cuts, increase in kids with needs, and difficulty hiring. I'm hoping for the house and Senate to protect us because it looks like the justice dept is already too far gone.

Anarchy seems more likely to mr than fascism in the aftermath of such an election outcome. Trump has too many haters for there to be a peaceful transition this time.

Project 2025 The plan the Conservative have for our future

This is for everyone that is taking the "oh well" stance... or the I'm going to wait it out stance... If you are unfamiliar with what the Republicans plan to do, I encourage you to look at the Project 2025 plan.

Some highlights

• slash funding for the DOJ
• dismantle the FBI
• decimate environmental and climate change regulations in favor of fossil fuels
• eliminate the department of commerce
• ending the independence of multiple federal agencies
• abolish the department of education
• scientific funding would be limited to pro-conservative principles
• end abortion nationwide
• infuse government with Christianity
• criminalize pornography
• removing protections against discrimination for sexual or gender identity
• terminating diversity, equity and inclusion programs and affirmative action
• the military would be used for domestic law enforcement
• the arrest and detention of undocumented immigrants
• speedy capital punishment

Project director Paul Dans, a former Trump administration official, explained that Project 2025 is "systematically preparing to march into office and bring a new army, aligned, trained, and essentially weaponized conservatives ready to do battle against the deep state."

So, for fucks sake, can we stop saying that we can wait out Trump for another term. There won't be an America left if there is another term.

Get ready for '26. Flipping/Maintaining the House and Senate has to be the priority.

Start getting into a resistance mindset. People have a rapidly vanishing window to organize for what's coming. Biden or Trump this cycle it doesn't really matter that much, Democrats and their supporters are simply are not equipped to resist fascism. We've reached the terminal end of the lesser of two evils, and it's going to be bad. Genocide Joe won't save us.

Try like hell to move across the pond or Japan.

If Trump wins: WWIII.

If Trump does not win: Civil war.

Maybe? Either one could have a few years delay.

Somehow we all are okay with him being the literal center of everything.

I'm shocked more people aren't already better prepared for this, but it's actually the same thing we should be doing now, and continue to do if Biden actually wins:

Organize locally. Get hyperlocal. Organize your city, neighbors, block, building, workplace, and friend group. Establish mutual aid networks, take back city councils, county boards, and school boards from the stewards of landlords and big employers.

Establish protection for those who need it, and plant the crop of future national leaders who will do the long overdue work of putting government to work for the masses. Make it harder for any president or governor to exercise state violence by getting our people in prosecutors offices and judgeships.

The Democrats are not going to save us. Biden is just planning to go down with the ship. Absolutely vote for the lesser of two evils if you live somewhere where your vote matters, but recognize that the Democratic party is not an ally to the antifascist movement, because combating fascism conflicts with the interests of capital.

That can change, but until it does, don't put faith in them. Anything positive they do will be because power-players were replaced. And that starts in your own neighborhood.

Edit: Since this has been well received, I want to say a quick word on third parties: don't be afraid of them.

Without getting into a lot of details, there are a lot of myths about the risks that third parties present, but before we parrot all of that, we should just acknowledge that there is no harm in listening to their platforms. It doesn't make you a kook to hear ideas that often get suppressed by the mainstream, or to use third parties as a way to network and meet people. I think Jill Stein has a lot of useful things to say, and if a pollster asks me, I will gladly try to bump her numbers up so that she is harder to ignore. Don't be afraid to do that.

As a person made utterly destitute and disabled by a series of crimes committed against me, well, I have SSDI and thats basically it.

Cost of living is way lower in Ecuador, i can relearn the Spanish I knew in high school, and theres a good number of affordable cities and towns there with considerably better crime statistics and public transportation than anywhere I can afford in the US.

I have done the math and it would be vastly more cost and time effective to move abroad... as I have been evicted, and basically that means I can't rent anywhere in the US for at least two years.

I am seriously considering noping the fuck out if Trump wins. Spent most of my adult life advocating for minorities, the poor, the disenfranchised, and now I am too fucking tired, in too much pain and too broke.

(Ironically my last job was at a non profit assisting the homeless, who didn't give a fuck about me becoming homeless.)

Not like anyone will miss me, every family member and friend I thought I had either committed crimes against me, told me to fuck off, or told me that they what was happening to me was too emotionally traumatic for them to deal with right now.

Of course this plan goes to shit if Trump and the Republicans somehow massively defund or cancel Social Security.

I used to think they would not be so stupid as to actually do that, as... an insane number of Trump's core voter base rely on SSI ot SSA or SSDI... but obviously with the MAGA crowd, anything is possible.

Guess I can always teach English. Maybe if I can ever walk again I can guide tours.

I’m in a blue state, so mostly help friends and family in red states. Specifically, help people access reproductive care.

Besides that, put more effort into local government.

"On Tyranny" by Tim Snyder has an excellent set of practical guidelines based on how it's played out in other places historically

More or less the same if Biden wins.

Feel a crushing sense of despair at the state of my country and probably get more involved in local issues.

Grit teeth for 4 years.
'28 he leaves. If not?
Shit gets ugly fast.

My plan is to leave the US my rent ends in November of 2025 so if trump wins I'm probably be leaving country

I’m torn on this. I’m “white”-ish enough, no kids, can’t get pregnant (or anyone pregnant) and I’m in the top 10%… so would anything for me fundamentally change? No…. I could stick my head in the sand and ignore it, but that’s really not me and it freaking breaks my heart to see all the people it impacts.

So I see one of three things:

1. Try to ignore it and keep voting blue and on policies to help those where i can
2. go one step further and put my money where my mouth is and help run an Underground Railroad for those who need to get to blue states while they still have the rights
3. flee to another country

I don’t really want to think about it, but it’s been at the back of my head.

Same thing I did last time he was president. Ignore the news and spend as much time as possible in the woods on a bicycle.

Nothing. Like last time.

There's not much to do except try to stay in my house and not engage with the outside world any more than I have to for four years.

It's also not like the Democrats are going to reign Trump in in any significant way. (Don't get me wrong. I'm voting for Biden, I just don't expect much.)

Hope that Canada or one of the Nordic/EU countries have job openings for an engineer.

I really don't want to be here if it happens. Full stop.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/NazCMjC7DOcAAAAC/pce-peace-out.gif

Canada. Maybe northern Europe. But I live in a blue state and I don't want to see how long it takes him to say "states' rights only apply to those that voted for me"

I don't think you can state the plan legally