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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dont use ethanol fuel. It may damage your car, and make your car weaker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I don't know why you think I have a choice in the matter.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

There's actually a really good explanation for this.

This is a mixing pump. It mixes ethanol into the fuel. Because the mixing happens before the part of the pump that measures how much is being dispensed, you need at least a few gallons to fully flush things out and get somewhere close to what you're actually buying.

Nobody is going to come arrest you if you buy 2 gallons of gas. But the gas you get me not be the mix you wanted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How would this be enforced?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Four ways:

1: It’s not.
2: The pump charges a minimum of 4 gallons.
3: The pump dispenses at least four gallons, and won’t shut off before then.
4: A cop watches every time a person fills up.

Personally, #3 would be the most fun, from a distance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

does this mean 2001+ OR flex fuel? or 2001+ AND flex fuel?

the former wouldn't make sense as that doesn't really exist, but if it were the latter then that's a really ambiguous warning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

If your vehicle was made after 2001 OR specifically labeled as flex fuel

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Fucking 15% ethanol now? So they basically just raised the price of gasoline 5%, and reduced the fuel efficiency of everyone's vehicle, without so much as a peep. Where is this?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Would you prefer they ban driving? we simply cannot keep going as we are, things have to change and you can either change your habits alongside it, accept that you have to pay more, or whine as you keep pumping poison into the air and contribute to your own early death from climate change.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I would expect it to also be less expensive but they don't show us that information.

I personally wouldn't mind if my fuel mileage goes down if the cost is also proportionally lower.

Also, ethanol has a energy density of roughly 2/3 that of gasoline, so yes e85 would have 5% less energy than gasoline with no ethanol, not e10, which is what I see as the listed price in most places. When doing a price comparison, it should be against e0, not e10 if you are expecting a 5% energy difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

We also pay for it in grocery costs from crops switching.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Where I have purchased it it has been cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

E15 is a different blend of fuel, it's not at all gas pumps and regular 87/89/91 octane level fuel is still available (because not all cars can use E15 like the sticker says). Sheetz stations sell it in my area around Raleigh, NC.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

What an appropriately named station.

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