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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's so many songs, TV shows, movies, etc, that's all romance or love stories that contain very blatant infidelity.

What tickles me is when very monogamous, very religious people talk that stuff up.... Like it's such a good song/movie/show... Ha. You have fantasies of leaving your spouse and running off with a younger, more attractive person. You slut.

I'm not religious, but I found a partner that gets me. Guess what. I'm not fantasizing about running off with some mythical "better" or "more romantic" person. Yeah, we're living together unmarried, and we're good like that. You rushed into marriage for God knows what reasons and now you live in regret. Good job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Are you saying you don't like piña coladas?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bothered me significantly in the will they/won't they dynamic of The Office.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The OG premise of The Office was similar to Seinfeld. They were all supposed to be awful people. Jim and Dwight and Michael were just three different flavors of incel. Jim hitting on a soon-to-be-married woman was supposed to be off-putting and gross. The front office guys treating the back office guys like trash was supposed to be elitist and revolting.

But because the writers needed to give you someone to root for, and because Jim was the "hot one" in a show full of normal looking people (aka the writers room from a bunch of sitcoms who thought it would be funny to have a show where they play each other's characters), they had to justify Pam breaking up and getting together with Jim. And then they had to turn the Jim/Pam arc into Friends. And then they had to turn the Dwight/Angela and Michael/Jan arcs into Friends. And by the final season they were just, like, "Fuck it, this show is now the same as Friends."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

But because the writers needed to give you someone to root for

Moreover, because it went from adapting a British sitcom to making an American sitcom. The famous tweet goes something like: "A waiter spills soup on a businessman before a meeting with his boss. In the UK the show's about the waiter. In the US the show's about the businessman."

Same reason Steve Carell went from playing David Brent to playing Brick Tamland. We don't find a powerful sleazebag as funny as a powerful moron.

Not that there's much difference these days.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't mind infidelity in media when the one being cheated on is "evil" in some ways like they're abusive or not in love. Still icky though. It's just very different when it's something like that versus "I'm cheating because you're bad at sex."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar enough with the plot of any Bond media to tell you if it falls in the category I'm okay with. Like if Bond's love interest is also married to the villain and has sex with Bond I would consider that okay. Because the villain is probably abusive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

love interest

What!? No!
He just fornicates all villain's wives to churn out their information, which he uses, to destroy the villain or sth.

The women are then left for dead. They do survive some times.

Every movie, new villain, new infidel wife.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

More troubling to me is how many romance movies have our protagonist stalk their love interest, who has already explicitly rejected them... and it works, because their obsession is framed as "love at first sight" and "not giving up on love".

Oh, and the other common trope, non-consensual voyeurism... and it works, because the woman is 'flattered' that the guy finds her attractive.

...How good is the "pop culture detective" YouTube channel?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This makes me wonder how many women are quite unhappy in their marriage, and are willing to jump at the nearest opportunity.

Kinda depressing to think about, actually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Boomer tropes exist because divorce was illegal.

You were expected to get married and stay married. You'd have unprotected sex with your high school boyfriend, you're goddamn right you were gonna keep the baby, and you were going to live together until one of you died. Even if it meant separate beds and not asking why he frequented that bar by the docks.

Blame Catholicism. That's usually a fair bet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

When was divorce illegal?

Edit: Divorce has never been illegal since the founding of the USA. It was uncommon, but it was granted by courts which means it was legal just uncommon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

The US didn't get no-fault divorce until after the moon landing.

Prior to that:

Divorce was considered to be against the public interest, and civil courts refused to grant a divorce except if one party to the marriage had betrayed the "innocent spouse." Thus, a spouse suing for divorce in most states had to show a "fault" such as abandonment, cruelty, incurable mental illness, or adultery. If an "innocent" husband and wife wished to separate, or if both were guilty, "neither would be allowed to escape the bonds of marriage."

Divorce was barred if evidence revealed any hint of complicity between spouses to manufacture grounds for divorce, such as if the suing party engaged in procurement or connivance (contributing to the fault, such as by arranging for adultery), condonation (forgiving the fault either explicitly or by continuing to cohabit after knowing of it), or recrimination (the suing spouse also being guilty).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Work with elderly. Coworker said "how many of these women do you think have gone their entire live without an orgasm." It connected a lot of dots. The no orgasm to elderly fox news white women is the school shooter pipeline for wasp women.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember when the hottest song on the radio was Follow Me by Uncle Cracker?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy shit I just looked up the lyrics, I'm glad I was ignorant to them at the time

I'm not worried

'Bout the ring you wear

'Cause as long as no one knows

Then nobody can care

You're feelin' guilty

And I'm well aware

But you don't look ashamed

And baby I'm not scared

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

On the other hand that is also one of those things that annoys me about romance culture, the whole notion of your girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband being "stolen" by someone else as if your partner was just a passive object instead of being the actual person in the cheating who made promises to you (which might or might not include sexual exclusivity depending on mutually agreed upon preferences between everyone in the relationship) and should keep those promises or break up with you no matter what any third person tempts them with.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Infidelity is widespread, because it comes from human nature. Instead of vilifying it we should strive to find and normalize forms of relationships that allow for more liberty without the necessity of lying and cheating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

What’s to stop anyone today from having an open conversation with their partner about opening their relationship? In the examples above, no one is vilifying having an open relationship… it’s vilifying lying and dishonesty.

Even if we were to normalize infidelity, that doesn’t mean anyone should be beholden to accepting it in their relationship. Your argument is akin to saying “lying is widespread because it comes from human nature” so we should just normalize lying.

F that noise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And most of the time it is women cheating. I think it is because these movies are made mostly for women and it is like porn for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

it is like porn for them.

You think that seeing other women cheat on their partners is like porn for women?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

You might be internalizing those movie scripts and your own lived experience. A cursory Google search indicates the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

And also how often the movie is completely oblivious to that. For example it's been a while since I saw "Devil wears Prada" but if I remember right, the ending is:

Our main character has an argument with her boyfriend

Goes to a business trip in Paris

Sleeps with random guy

Returns home and makes up with her boyfriend

And the movie ends like nothing happened, she's happy, that's what's important

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, that was bad, but I hated the movie more for turning it into feel-good drivel about the boss actually being kind and caring about her employee(s). The book ending, where the character realized her own self worth and started making her own decisions, was so much better than the american bullshit about putting up with a boss' bullshit because they're actually such good people and will throw a few dollars off the balcony for you to catch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i wish my wife would do this so that i can stick my asshole on fire

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Her probably:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I saw Casablanca for the first time 2 weeks ago, and yep, checks out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If I remember Casablanca right she doesn't actually knowingly cheat on her husband at any point. The woman has a relationship with Rick when she believes her husband to be dead before the events of the movie that we hear about 2nd hand. Then in the movie Rick helps her and her husband escape Casablanca.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a scene with implied sex, when Ilsa goes back to try and convince Rick to give her the letters of transit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't remember that but I need to re-watch it since the whole film is pretty fuzzy in my mind

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's heavy innuendo but yeah, they did the deed. Ilsa asks Rick to choose for her because she loves them both. He sets it up like he is running away with her but then does the ol'switcheroo and sends her and Laszlo off while he holds the Nazis at gunpoint. He ends up shooting Nazis and Capt. Renault covers for him.