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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Come to think about it I think the reason why us americans associate giant SUVs and trucks with safety is because we've gotten so lazy relying on computers and finicky cameras that get covered in mud that I personally feel safer driving my 56 bel air over modern cars because I'm able to physically move my head to see the crap around me not to mention the transmission being a two speed automatic it has a hard time getting to dangerous high speeds but I suppose that doesn't really matter when everyone else is blind quite frankly I would love a car with modern crash safety and handling while still having the ridiculous lack of blind spots that 50s cars had I actually praise the vw golf for having not only a backup camera that doesn't get dirty while not doing that stupid thing where for some reason a lot of auto manufacturers think we have a backup camera lets jack the rear seats so the driver has to use the camera that gets covered in mud or make the rear windshield flat enough to become unusable during winter thank you Volkswagen for not doing that with the golf I can have the backup camera and my physical neck to look behind me

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait until you're older and looking back don't work anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

We should get this guy in a smart car as an option on twisted metal.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

How tf do you even get a water bottle under the brake pedal?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I imagine they're one of those people who just have piles of trash in their car sliding around the floor and probably dashboard too.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If this is real, this guy should not have a driver's license anymore, he's a menace on the road. Sorry my dude but I hope your insurance prices goes as high as heaven cause you should not have a car!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, basically, he had one accident per year. And he is not smart enough to understand that the universe is trying to tell him "Don't drive a car, then!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean "don't drive a car" isn't always an option, especially if you're in America.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I got quoted $840 a month for insurance. Clean accident history. Insurance is bullshit levels of expensive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a pretty typical rate except for comprehensive for an entire year

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn. I managed to get basic insurance for like $75/mo but it's one where they require you to install a tracking app on your phone for the first month that gives you a higher rate if you accelerate or brake hard. I just drove like a grandma for a month and uninstalled it after.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How old? What kind of car?

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So best case for someone like this: don't drive. Get other people to drive you, use public transportation, get a bike, etc. But this is probably America and that is 100% not possible everywhere. Or even most places.

There is another option: State-Owned High-Risk Auto Insurance. These are insurance plans owned by individual states. Because US states all require auto insurance to drive a car and because driving a car is goddamn necessary in a lot of America, this exists.

It's VERY expensive. Like when I was looking at getting good coverage for 2 newish cars I was staring down $500/6mo. Our state's high-risk was $2,000+. But it exists for people like in the post who are just too expensive for ordinary insurance companies to want to insure.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Where on earth are you getting insurance for 2 cars for $500/6 months? I'm middle aged, drive a 10 year old car, and have a perfect driving record, and mine's about $100/month. I've priced the same level of coverage with other companies and that's pretty much what all of them offered.

Eta: I'm literally asking. I have no loyalty to my current company, if I can get it cheaper, I'm out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in a similar position, middle aged, clear driving history for about 15 years, car's an '18. I pay ~$450 every 6 months with Progressive. Paying the whole amount up front gives me a good discount. If you can't do that size payment at once you can pay with PayPal credit and it should be no interest for 6 months so you can get the discount and still pay monthly.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was a few years ago. But I have the same coverage and cars for $580/6mo. BTW it's cheaper to pay all at once usually.

But our cars are compact and subcompact about 9 & 10 years old. We carry 100/300/100. It's GEICO is MD but it was also about the same with progressive in FL. Only one of us has a perfect record, the other is still minor and rare.

So you may just live in an expensive state for insurance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Totally possible. CO has gotten pretty expensive for everything. :/ It may still be time to get some other estimates again, though.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this rate I bet it's cheaper for them to Uber everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No way. Even just commuting assuming $20 each way (cheap for rush hour) that's $4,800 every 6 months. Probably 2-3 times as expensive as the high risk insurance.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The post said they had been paying $500 a month ($3000 for six months) and it went up with every accident. When you factor in gas and maintenance (let alone deductibles for all their accidents), ride share services might well be cheaper.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe you should learn how to fucking drive?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pffft, that’s what the insurance is for, so they don’t have to learn.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Makes me wonder how having a personal driver would affect premiums. Does the owner of the vehicle pay it? Does the driver? Do both?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Huh. I’ve never thought of that, and it’s a really good question. I’m guessing there may be some kind of “I own it, but don’t drive it” group within insurance that deals with it, or maybe be kind of shared responsibility between the two.

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I know these stories are always fake anyway but holy shit, buy a bike and chill out for a few years.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, people like this are why my (absolutely spotless record, not even a parking ticket) insurance is so high. They drive rates up for everyone around them, simply due to the fact that you can get hit by them through no fault of your own.

I dated a girl whose brother had four accidents on his record at the time. He was 17 years old, so just barely old enough to have his license, (in my area you can get your permit at 15, and license at 16). After his second totaled car, their parents told him he was buying his third car with his own money. For them, the first totaled car was a fluke; The second was a pattern. So he got a job at 16, bought a junker with his earnings, and totaled it six months later.

The worst part is that two of his accidents happened in the exact same circumstances. Slick roads from an ice storm. He takes one particular corner too fast, hits a patch of ice, and ends up totaled. He totaled two cars on the exact same icy corner, because he didn’t learn from the first accident.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's bound to work out great with their history of crashing...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I did know people like this growing up, but they were always driving fucked up one way or another.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I personally know someone who totaled 4 cars before turning 18. He literally treated the gas as an on/off switch.

So people that bad at driving are out there.

Truth be told, drivers here in the US are TOTALLY untrained for the most part. My oldest is currently in driver's Ed and it is a joke, in regards to actually how to drive a car. I have spent a lot of time training him as I have a long history taking racing and advanced driving courses. I've held SCCA and FIA racing licenses and I have taken some courses that are usually reserved for police officers The only problem is I do not feel that I'm a very good teacher for him. But he has picked up some things, even if he isn't up for threshold or trail braking.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As someone that ended up being the teacher for the majority of my friend group. If you are struggling with the teaching more than likely you're trying to give answers to their questions. Which is actually more unhelpful than helpful.

If they're asking you how to make a certain kind of turn, or how to know how close they are to something. Just giving them an answer isn't really useful because they don't know how to arrive at that answer, instead you need to help them ask the correct questions.

" you didn't quite make it in that parallel park, get out and take a look at where the car is. The back of the car is only just barely in the spot, so clearly you didn't end up deep enough in the spot. What do you think you need to do to change that"

And have them keep practicing until they start to figure it out, it will seem frustrating for them in the moment but it's genuinely more useful for them to try things on their own and attempt to reach the answer. than it is for them to be handed the answer, because then they understand not just the answer is, but the why of the answer. Why did I not make that turn, what does it feel like to not make the turn properly. Which is very important for being able to apply those same principles of vehicle control to other situations.

One of my favorite things to do with people is to set up some cones or a block of wood or whatever and just tell them to try and park as closely as possible to that object without touching it. I have them do that, get out, go look at how close they were to it, and then try again if they were nowhere near it until they can get it to Within less than a foot. Great way to help train sense of vehicle position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It’s alright, he probably doesn’t need to know how to do a PIT maneuver or corner drifts :P

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was a kid at my high school who was famous for wrecking 7 cars his senior year. Parents just kept buying him new ones. Like, brand new. Off the lot. It was insane.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like a hell of a car salesman!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Don't even have to change the oil at that rate.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Most of the USA also seems to lack options for adults to take a class and be given professional instruction on how to drive, for some odd reason. If you're out of high school there are no classes for you.

I wonder if it's like that in most other countries as well?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My wife didn't even do drivers' ed, since she didn't get her license until after high school. She just had to pass a test and got her license that day. I did the whole drivers' ed thing, but it barely prepared me at all, and I ended up getting into 2 accidents while still in high school since I just didn't have the experience to deal with unusual situations, and I locked up when I happened to get into a couple dangerous situations. Luckily we're both experienced drivers by now 10+ years later, but yeah, those first few years are basically just learning how to drive by driving, being a danger to everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Not in Hungary. Getting a category B license, which covers automobiles and mopeds, starts with a long course in driving theory, basic maintenance, and traffic laws, capped by an exam. Then a one-day first-aid training and exam. The next step is driving practice with a certified instructor -- basic skills on a practice course, then real traffic, plus parking and reversing maneuvers -- 30 hours total, which must include one hour of highway and one hour of night driving, and has a minimum required distance travelled, ending with a one-hour exam with the instructor and an examiner employed by the state. Next you have to pass a medical exam (sight, hearing, balance), and THEN you can apply for a driving license.

All in all, it took me about six months and cost 150,000 HUF (~400 USD using today's conversion rate). I passed the driving exam on the second attempt -- the first failed because I didn't yield to an old beater with a busted indicator light.

Also, just for comparison, when I started driving, my insurance was around 170 USD a year and it's only gone down. $500 per month is fucking absurd.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We're no where near $170 a year but $500 is very high. I haven't had a ticket or accident in about 15 years, I think insurance companies can only go back 6 years, and I'm paying about $75 per month.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's insanely cheap insurance, I pay that to insure a vehicle that is parked up and not driven.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Y’all have to hear to drive?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You'd be surprised...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wouldn't they have revoked your license by this point?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's surprisingly hard to take someone's license away.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily. Actual accidents don't always confer citations and many of those can be discharged for simply proving your insurance paid the other person. It's not illegal to be a klutz, it's just expensive.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Depends where in the world this is.

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