George Lucas? Release an old cut of a movie he made that his fans want to see? Where have I heard that one before?
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It's hard to trust George Lucas with Star Wars after he keeps making so many little changes. Can I see the Topher Grace prequel cut instead?
Seymour! Seymour! The Chosen One is on fire!
Lucas won't even let you see the original Star Wars without his CGI additions. Lucas has lied to deflect from being criticized for his decisions.
Harmy and the 4k77 project have illegally done what Lucas refuses to do.
I thought it was to screw over his ex-wife.
It likely was. That and the ego of someone who wanted to be Steve Wozniak but was really a Steve Jobs.
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Lucas won’t even let you see the original Star Wars without his CGI additions.
My VHS tapes say otherwise.
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I've always loved the Harmy version but recently I watched 4K77 without noise reduction. My god.... so much grain!
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I thought he manually edited the masters, so the original Star Wars without CGI additions no longer exists.
I do love the Harmy Despecialized editions. Also check out the Anti-Cheese edits of the prequels.
You can destroy the negatives with extra processing but you can't destroy the prints. Lucas has original prints and if he didn't he had the millions to acquire them. If fans did it, Lucas could have.
The rumor I heard decades ago (so a mountain-sized grain of salt) was that he didn't want to admit he fucked up the originals when making the specialized editions, and just acted like he didn't want to release remastered theatrical versions. He was also fiercely defensive of the specialized versions, saying that they were closer to his "vision" than the originals.
Master negatives can create higher resolutions than what you get from the prints. The fan-made versions did a ton of upscaling from the best quality digital versions they could find.
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The cheese is why the prequels are fun to watch though! We've all worked through our collective trauma about how trashy the prequels are, now we're ready for good ol fashioned hate watching.
I dunno, seeing it without the racist stereotypical accents was a significant improvement.
I'm not sure "we've all worked though" it, but I'm glad I'm not the only one with this perspective. I tried to explain "rage watching" the prequels to a non Star Wars fan not long ago and they looked at me like I had 3 heads.
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I think I just threw up a little in my mouth….
Why would you want this????!
I could watch 4 hours of RotS but no way could I make it through 4 hours of Phantom Menace.
Honestly, I’d rather just ditch the terrible plots of both movies and just go have fun in Star Wars Battlefront playing with all the cool hovertanks and robots.
I know the prequels have been meme'd to hell and are objectively ridiculous, but I'm not too proud to admit that I really like them.
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Everything cool about them is despite George Lucas not because of him. Sure the battles are cool, the CGI scenes are cool, but the prequels were wayyyyyy too much a direct implementation of what Lucas thought was going to be good to ever have been good lol.
The original Star Wars movies were better because Lucas wasn’t famous yet and had to actually listen to the people around him.
Don't get me wrong, the original trilogy is the best by far. I was just the right age to enjoy the prequels when they came out, so maybe it's the nostalgia talking. I rewatch them every few years and enjoy them every time.
The Darth Maul fight scene was very cool in 1999, and I watched Bigger Longer & Uncut the same year! What a time to be a teen.
Yeah I mean I was the perfect age to enjoy the shit out of the battles and action scenes, so I understand the nostalgia thing.
RotS was always genuenly good.
I think the resentment from fans came out of a feeling of missed potential. What people wanted was what they eventually put into the Clone Wars series: space adventures, complex characters, and the subtle corruption of a great hero.
What we got wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great. There was cheesy dialogue, convoluted storylines, and one-dimensional characters. Star Wars, like a lot of franchise films, benefits from the association with the wider universe. We, the fans, fill in gaps and references to backstory with the things we know without it appearing on the screen. But it also suffers from the comparison and expectations we have.
Take the reveal of Vader/birth of the twins at the end. Seeing Vader rise from the table, and hearing James Earl Jones' voice for the "first" time was genuinely cool because we have all seen the original trilogy. The interspersed delivery scene draws parallels between Luke and Leia being born with Vader being born.
Taken in a vacuum, if you had no idea who Vader was, it would all seem a bit silly, because "Darth Vader" was actually "born" several scenes ago when he killed Mace Windu and then mass-murdered a school full of children.
At the same time, we know what Vader looks and sounds like. Drawing out the reveal feels slightly overdramatic. Then you get the whole "she's lost the will to live" and that "Noooooo!" and people are rolling from laughter instead of wiping away tears.
That's like the whole movie. Anything good or bad is made simultaneously better and worse by association. How you view the movie depends on how that association makes you feel. If you love Star Wars and want to love the Prequels, you will.
Aside from the logical inconsistencies, the plot holes, the (still) bad writing, the over-utilization of green screen that makes the whole production soulless and artificial, and the infamous "NOOOOOOO!" scene, it's a great movie!
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Was it? Or was it just a breath of fresh air after the other two? And yes I did grow up with it, even saw it in theatre.
I also saw it in theatres, and while I wouldn't call it a breath of fresh air per se, but it was definitely the least bad of the prequels. This is gonna get me down voted to hell, but that 45 minute lightsaber battle at the end was 44 minutes too long in my opinion.
I also grew up with the prequels and yes, RotS was leagues ahead of them but it's not just that. It has its issues, but I firmly believe it is a really good movie. I also grew up with prequels and saw both Episode 2 and 3 in theatres. But while the first two were quite cringey with some good parts, RotS was just good and stood up the test of time. More than I can say bout New Hope tbh.
RotS was just good and stood up the test of time. More than I can say bout New Hope tbh.
I respect your opinion but I can't say it's not baffling to me lol. Do you find New Hope is too slow by today's standards?
Oh you poor kids. You never knew the world where there weren’t the prequels. Or even the trilogy.
There were many years - many! - when “prequel” wasn’t even a word! Let alone a real word.
You’ll just have to trust us when we tell you there was a magical time when there was only one Star Wars and it was glorious.
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It's been like 15 years since I've seen it, but isn't it the one with all the good memes?
It's got several of them, and that's the only redeeming quality.
I re-watched it recently, and was reminded just how bad it was. I only saw The Phantom Menace in the theatre, and the disappointment kept me away from the releases of the next two installments - money well saved.
At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within your kitchen?
Well I'm from Tatooine and I've never heard that before.
Disney: No.