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I don’t know you so these words aren’t meant to be hurtful, but I wouldn’t want to be your friend.
It sounds like you have nothing in common and aren’t actually interested in their life or you’d be interested in the kids.
The best part is you suggested the coffee shop lol.
Honestly just learn to say no if you don’t want to do something. It might be awkward but it’ll save embarrassment, wasted time and maybe even hurt in the end.
She's gonna think you're an asshole. Who cares what we think?
Just tell her you don't want to meet up and why. Save her the headache of thinking you're even remotely interested in being her friend.
Why waste time spending time with someone you don't care about?
If it was a friend, that'd be a different story. The kids aren't even a part of the decision here.
I'm not a fan of kids either. But hey...guess what? Not being willing to put on your big boy pants and suck it up for an hour is the very definition of "being a selfish asshole".
The fact that the first thing you talk about is how those kids are "going to be the focus of the occasion" (your words), shows that what you lack isn't "enthusiasm about catching up with someone". What you lack is basic human empathy.
One of the things that absolutely sucks donkey balls about being a new parent is that half your friends just totally ghost you and done want to deal with the complications of your kids, which it sounds like your friend is dealing with.
Definitely hanging out in a coffee shop with a bored toddler is not a recipe for a good time, which I guess your friend has not discovered hard enough yet. The other person suggesting hanging out at a park instead is on to something. Or just anywhere else where the kid has something to do besides sit down and shut up, which generally they won’t.
yeah
She's handling two kids under five years old?
You're not 'showing up for coffee' you're providing a needed mental health break.
Exactly this. People will have kids then expect other people to help out because "it takes a village". Fuck that, figure out who's willing to be in your village, THEN have kids.
I'm having a hard time understanding how self centered some people are. You can be uncomfortable with their kids and still enjoy their company.
I don't know a single parent who "figures out their village" before having kids. If anything, having kids sheds the selfish dipshits like you.
You don't know anyone who figures out their village before having kids...but childfree people are the selfish ones. Yeah, that makes sense.
Childfree people aren't selfish. People who hate children for existing are though. No one is forcing you to have kids. False victim hood bullshit.
Never said I hated children, but keep pushing your false narrative to feel good about yourself.
Finding a village first implies you are not part of the village. Yah probably hate kids lol.
You're not wrong for wanting to avoid a situation because of the potential of screaming children, but it's important to remember that, with parents, it's a package deal. To avoid overstimulation, try and go to a park for the first meeting. Like get coffee and go to a place with a playground where the toddler can run wild, and the 6 month can be in a stroller or rocker. Being outside vs bring in a building where screams can echo, makes a big difference.
Something that helps me hang-outs with my friends who have kids, is remembering that screaming children are inevitable... but most of the time, I'm not enjoying the company of my friends alongside the random, misbehaving ones. This time, you can make a friend.
This is the way.
Getting a toddler to sit quietly for an extended period is hard. You are either listening to them, or entertaining them; a lot of parents, these days, use a smartphone for this.
These responses are as varied as you can get
You're fine. I used to think I hated kids until my friends had kids who were awesome and I realized that I hate bad parents. These kids are too young for anything to imprint. You're right that they'll dominate the conversation out of necessity. You don't want to put yourself in such a situation for someone on your periphery of interest and that's fine.
People complain that you're a bad person for not being terribly interested in her life, but she's not a part of yours and you're entertaining the idea that maybe you could have a nice time. As an introvert, I think you're doing a good job of remaining open to the possibility that there could be a solid friendship forming. Even if not that, at least it might be a nice time once.
Others are being assholes. You're fine.
I don't have advice for how to position that you only want to meet one on one, but I don't think you're a bad person for wanting that. It's not like I would want my buddy's 14yo kid to come to record night this weekend. He's a nice kid, but this is time for the middle-aged men to hang out.
Coffee is not good for babies, save the babies, don't meet her. Call child protection. I don't think she is your friend if she is giving her babies coffee.
I don't think so, but I don't like kids. Like even a little bit; they're loud, annoying, and tend to give me headaches. Hell, I didn't like kids when I was one.
Wow, a lot of salty parents in this thread
Not even a parent, just have friends who are and empathise with their situation.
