Says the party that literally wanted to modify the grade school syllabus to teach that the 2020 US election was stolen.
this post was submitted on 21 May 2025
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Such incredibly sore losers...
There’s a reason Oklahoma is 49th for education.
During COVID, the biology teacher at the high school I worked (and later, the fucking department head) was a creationist with a Bible college degree that would compliment students for forgoing masks and explicitly taught anti-vaxx shit.
Climate change is fun too - I put on a PD once and a teacher was really fucking pissed that I was showing data on how Milanokovich cycles do not explain modern climate patterns… literally thought she was going to fight me.
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Holy fuck do the maga just shotgun acid and become the stupidest zombies?
Not how drugs work
I mean they would probably be a lot cooler if they were on acid all the time.
They'd probably chill on the whole "let's make a fascist death cult!" thing too
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Stupid freeloading children want us to pay for school when clearly we are low on cash after giving it all to the military!
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I went to a religious private school and they tried to indoctrinate me to fascism
This is what they want
Thats my point, their accusation is an admission. They claim public schools are indoctrination yet their private schools are (I worded it a bit off)
Her side would rather have state-funded religious schools from age 3-20.
She's got a BA from University of Georgia.
This isn't an education problem. It's pure propaganda and the allure of selling out on social media.
We're all going to run headlong into a very difficult inflection point in human development as a species very, very soon. Which is the looming divide between people who have no idea how their own minds work, and those who have even a shred of self-awareness.
And not a "facebook/twitter argument" type of self-awareness, but understanding that your intelligence and your understanding of things are entirely separate factors. We are species of cognitive dissonance. It's baked-in. Everyone, even YOU personally reading this, has some level of contradictory ideas or feelings that you can't pry apart without effort.
Some people think about how they think, and come to conclusion that they need to make effort to balance out their values and understanding of the world. Other people are going "brain go vroom" and conclude any idea they have, no matter how ridiculous, as long as it aligns with how they feel at that moment, MUST be true because they still think brains are fact-finding machines, not story-telling machines. This is why we have anti-vax doctors and climate-change-denying scientists (although rare) which is because they live in reaction and story-telling, not reason. If anything, education can make it much, much harder to break out of story-telling-reaction mode, because you think your own thoughts far less fallible.
So yeah, education is only part of the problem. We are going to have to figure out ways to teach people self-awareness, how to think about their own thoughts, or we're going to have billions of brains rotting in an AI/social-media/emotional-porn cesspit in the next decade and they vote and carry guns.
It reminds me of the "missing missing reasons" post, which describes how for some people reality creates emotions, but for other people emotions create reality
The first viewpoint, "emotion creates reality," is truth for a great many people. Not a healthy truth, not a truth that promotes good relationships, but a deep, lived truth nonetheless. It's seductive. It means that whatever you're feeling is just and right, that you're never in the wrong unless you feel you're in the wrong. For people whose self-image is so battered and fragile that they can't bear anything but validation, often it feels like the only way they can face the world.
Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 1968 with a bachelor's degree in economics.
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Pretty sure she went to public schools.
Meaning, she at least recognizes that more education = less radical views? Which is… counter her point of indoctrination.
But no point if the education system doesn't want to teach you but get you more ready for the work force.
People say this all the time like it's some edgy gotcha.
And while Public education in the United States did really come to full fruition during the industrial revolution, and does do a lot to prepare a person for the workforce, noting not all school are the same..
..I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded..but poorly. My son is in middle school, I've noticed he doesn't have music class. They have a band and chorus as extracurriculars, but no music theory/history class like I did. I was the last class group to take home economics, and there is no computer class either. Every kid has a Chromebook, but no one is watching a Sweeny Todd on stage, or picking a composer to write a report on. No kid is sewing a teddy bear or making pizza cookies, and they don't have general computer instruction. My son is in special education, so it's hard to gauge one to one, but I definitely feel like his quality of education is less than when I was in middle school 25 years ago, especially when we look at "specials", for what its worth. And this disappoints me.
But education as I see, is not "just to get you ready for the workforce" though that is part of it. A lot of teachers really care, and try to help kids find joy in learning, even still today. Well rounded schooling is important for children to become individuals with the power of critical thought beyond the scope of preparing them to work in a factory.
School where I went, and were my son goes, definitely fit "you get out what you put in".
I am fully greatful my little rural New England School did a good job teaching me critical thinking. I really loved learning as I grew up and had many fantastic teachers.
To note, over the last 25 years, education funding, for whatever reason, is funded…but poorly
they coulda spent a lil more time on spelling, grammar, punctuation, and composition tbqph. like cmon bro you had to override the spellcheck on greatful.
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Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society. You treat special cases but on average it's a workforce. You know the Ontario government has an investment plan for higher education because society financially benefits from more intelligent people?
I dont see how the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society, here in the states.
I do see a cultural tendency to associate wealth with success. A notion that confuses me and I dont subscribe to, however is very prevalent here.
In the early 2000 the focus was college prep. College was marketed as the average persons line to success (wealth).
Today I think a lot of teachers are just trying to get through the day. The United States education, in my area, seemed to have peaked when I was in school. When the Bush administration passed the "no child left behind" act.. I've since watched education go in the shitter. It should have been called "pass every student no matter what". Also around 2010 they switched from teaching 5/6 year olds phonics and instead tried "sight words" for a time. A massive failure. I believe they have gone back to phonics now, I hope.
In the states, schools sign contracts with tech companies to supply chrombooks to each student, but like I mentioned, dont teach music composition anymore. Students of today, it's been noted to me by professionals I work with, absolutely have less tolerance for difficult things than the students 20 years ago. But in my discussions, it's not evident why. Even children with low/no/modersted screen time stuggle with task tolerance. So I don't know.
I do know my state (2nd or 3rd state in the country for quality of k-12 education) now has public community college education available for free, or nearly nothing. Ive seen the flyers and buildings, I don't know much about it, but I'm proud my state is offering alternatives to the large expensive universities. They are trying very hard to invest in the the everyday person here.
Just lay off "school is just a place you are trained to be a worker" alluding it is not important or meaningful outside of training machine cogs. It's a juvenile thought made with little consideration to other invaluable educational experiences within childhood education. The purpose of school is to have an intelligent, healthy society capable of critical thought so that we may uphold democracy and society as a whole. Have we swayed from this in the last 10,15, 20 years? A good question. But I've heard the school/worker machines comment for longer than that.
Not as long as the industrial complex is the most important thing to our society.
Well, it's not. We outsourced the bulk of our heavy industry to East Asia 30 years ago.
Now the most important thing to our society is sales and marketing.
Keep this stuff to politicalmemes community. We non-Americans have enough American news crammed down our throats as it is.
Tbh it's the first time I see her name (iirc), and thanks to that everything, including the answer she received, was "amusing" to me.
She pretty much sounds like any of the current right-wing populists and anarchocapitalists. This is an american trend, sadly winning force everywhere.. This meme is fully on-topic across the western world :(
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We Americans also have enough.
she got engagement and ad-hominem is hardly a burn :/
leaving that musk-fueled cesspool is the better move imo.
It's not an ad hominem if it's directly related to the topic of debate
I may agree with Olbermann here but let's not forget:
Yes I know my enemies
They’re the teachers who taught me to fight me
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are American dreams
Came on shuffle the other day and inspired me to pickup the guitar for a couple hours and annoy the crap out of my kid
Okay sure, I'm on his side, but that was hardly a burn. Shit wasn't clever at all, coulda sent her to the burn ward but settled for a rug burn
yeah.
how about stopping the facsists instead of clapping back (badly) at them in a nazi social network, just so some people in the dem bubble can froth at the mouth from it.
i also wonder why they crop off the likes and stuff from these posts. maybe they don't want people to notice these responses are barely even getting seen either.
this is just social media garbage slop without any substance at all.
at least put the name of that removed in the title so i can filter it the fuck out of my feed instead of making me see what these stupid and irrelevant usian puppets have to say.
Then you do better.
Ok
"It is spelled religion, not school"
YO MOMMA FAT
YO MOMMA SO FAT, WHEN SHE SIT AROUND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES SHE REALLY SIT AROUND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
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Cons are the stupidest fucks this side of alpha fucking centauri.
The fuck does she think indoctrination means? Oh that's right, they've long given up arguing in good faith. There is no rational point to be made, I always forget that.
Indoctrination means 'My children don't respect what my gut knows to be true!!!'
Anything she doesn’t already believe.
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