This is where the Overton window has shifted to. We’re now debating whether modern capital punishment is too humane for porn producers.
this post was submitted on 10 May 2025
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One could argue that showing cock&ball torture on a livestream is also a form of porn.
Hey can you put a CW on this please? Really didn't want to read that unprepared :/
Putting aside the psychotic torture fantasies of these unhinged weirdos, could I please give perspective?
I'm anti-pornography. I'm also a former sex worker. I don't think that no one should consume porn, but you need to realize how horrific the porn industry truly is. It's why I think people should consume amateur stuff, OF, and independent makers. Big name companies are abusive, full-stop. There are, of course, exceptions with smaller stuff, too, but if you knew what these women and girls AND many boys and men go through for the sake of porn, I hope you would be horrified and disgusted.
This is not a moralistic, prude, "Christian-viewpoint"-thing. Far from it! All I'm saying is that if most of y'all can be furious & boycott N×stlé for their human rights abuse, y'all should also look into ethical porn consumption.
100% OF, Chaturbate, or whatever. Only ethical way to go. The actors are fully in control of what they're willing to do, and for how much.
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but if you knew what these women and girls AND many boys and men go through for the sake of porn, I hope you would be horrified and disgusted
What do they go through?
Yep
That's why I do what I do. I hope that people can find something they like, for free, without the exploitation
My fiancée and I want to make educational stuff for people too
Some troll had already said that we must be ugly because we don't want to charge
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Tumbler people need to touch grass apparently. That's the most 4chan thing I ever read from there
I think that the ones who should be punished are the politicians and leaders that have allowed easy to access and free porn to be available to 12 year olds for decades now. While these puritanical pearl clutchers go after cigarettes, drugs, the wOKe AgeNda, piracy and anything else that makes it look like they actually give a shit about society; they've oddly turned a blind eye to kids consuming aggressive porn where women are treated like fleshlights and incest fantasies abound. Almost in the same way that they've turned a blind eye to the fact that being a priest makes you very likely to also be a pedo.
These people are evil
Watching porn is nearly as much fun as making porn. I have no fucking clue what these folks are ranting about.
I assume the 4chan users have had to find a new base of operations, preferably with developers who actually know how to one do highly complex tasks such as install updates.
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Folks.
If you ever catch yourself describing how you want to torture someone to death, I want you to stop and take inventory of your priorities.
Look. I am not a pacifist. Some motherfuckers need to be removed from positions of power by any means necessary, up to and including violence.
That being said, should we not focus on restorative justice and rehabilitation? Why create unnecessary suffering in the process? The argument that things like the death penalty act as a deterrent doesn't seem to be borne out in the evidence. What good is served by torturing someone, even if they're the nastiest son of a bitch in existence?
It is important to make sure we don't let killing for sport seep into our ideology. Using violence against people is not something we should take pleasure in, let alone fantasize about. History has given us plenty of examples to draw from here; once you make a policy out of sadism, the group of people you use violence against only grows.
Also, porn is fine in moderation (like everything else) and can be made totally consensually, you terminally online freaks.
Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.
- Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms
GNU Terry Pratchett
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there are many valid reasons to dislike porn and the industry around it, why are all anti-porn communities so fucking weird?
between this and nofap im not sure who i want to hang around with the least honestly (and anyways these spaces are almost always filled with transphobes)
Because it's Christian extremism or the same but laundered through fake feminism
For real - the industry is horrific. I don’t feel comfortable with the real stuff; I don’t like not knowing if that person was treated fairly or paid what they were promised or consented to everything that happened. Zero puritanical aspect to it, zero issue with smut and drawn images.
It’s just frustrating how the weirdos are the ones most critical of the industry. The world would be better if all porn was stuff made by eager participants who were happy and paid well.
Younger consumers seem to very disproportionately favor small studios and individual creators with actors who at least pretend to be enjoying themselves, so I think things are likely getting better, if maybe slowly.
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nobody could have stopped child me from finding porn. I discovered social engineering the old fashioned way just to acquire consistent internet access, and I did entering without breaking that would get an adult in trouble to access computers with nobody around in more than one place. I taught my parents how to use computers and I protected them from viruses. there was no stopping me.
I gave the pimply teenager at the quickymart $5 and he let me buy any magazines I wanted.
ah the 80s....
Yeah, it's part of the reason I'm so good with IT. My stepmom was the systems engineer, and I had to figure out ways to get around her blocks and hide my tracks.
Strict parents raise sneaky, cautious, and paranoid kids.
Which would make sense that my IT career led me to cyber security. But really she wasn't strict since I didn't live with my dad and the only time we ever really interacted was when she helped me upgrade my GPU to play Phantom Menace (still funny I pre-ordered it, but it took months to get it working right), their house just had cable Internet while my mom had dialup until I was a junior in highschool.
My real mom is the reason I'm sneaky and paranoid.
Ye found tumblr
Making the exception for young boys stumbling across it has me wondering if this was a post on child pornography. The extreme punishments would make more sense too.
No - radiant fem suggestions is the original post in the chain.
Then there’s really no explanation other than she’s certifiably cuckoobananas.
There's a group of rabid crazies that think that a woman can never consent to having sex with a man (because of the patriarchy). In their minds, any man who has sex with a woman is a rapist.
It's ironically one of the most sexist beliefs against women I've ever heard.
Ah yes, "all piv s*x is rape (and/or) unnatural" (they would ACTUALLY unironically censor the word 'sex' in their verbal diarrhea) posts.
I remember seeing them getting more and more attention like ten or so years ago.
...Sometimes I wonder if the political shitstorm we're enduring today is at least partially backlash against that in particular.
Like, the fascists print that shit out and frame it and say "this is what we are uniting against" and that's how they convinced so many normies to follow them. Fuck.
It's definitely a factor. I'm quite left leaning, but even I agree with them on a good number of points. Thankfully I'm capable of dissecting it further, so wasn't drawn in. I can easily see how boys and young men could be.
We spent our whole lives being told we needed to apologise to women for oppressing them. That women had it worse than us and things needed to be evened up. Meanwhile, we were often worse off than they were, and got no additional support, other than being told to man up and/or being laughed at, with a dose of "how does it feel".
Best I can tell. Feminists look at the top men and compare them to the average woman's situation. They also make a lot of noise about the privileges men have, but are suspiciously quiet about the responsibilities linked to them. Women need their own space, but any male space is evil, and must be destroyed.
Fyi, I'm also aware that it's a small minority of feminists, but they have a disproportionate voice in the media.
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...I can at least comfort myself in the knowledge that I'm not the worst kind of useful idiot.
I don't think you're wrong that it contributed. If nothing else, the GOP used it in their brainwashing to brand all liberals as being like them.
I literally heard Fox News use that logic not long ago to say that liberals are the reason why a child molester claimed he was trans when arrested for flashing children in a locker room.
What in the evangelical hell is this? Porn isn't bad