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Don't bullshit around with people's legal representation. You're a professional with a responsibility to the client and the profession. Take your shit seriously.
this post was submitted on 03 May 2025
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You know, with all the crap going on in the U.S. right now I'm ok with the watermark
Yeah, no need to resort to linking to Reason.com articles.
That's their domain
Check the links in their footer
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Yeah, very much not what I want from my lawyers, thank you
Wait until they turn up to court wearing it.
Good. Some places should keep their dignity.
Sure, but when the government does it, it's fine: https://www.dcma.mil/News/Article-View/Article/3258274/opsec-history-from-ancient-origins-to-modern-challenges/
Damn, I'm usually an uptight fuck and think furries often bring this aspect of their identity into places where it isn't appropriate, but I think the judge has a stick up their ass here and 100% agree with drag. The judicial branch is a joke when this fucking chode gets to treat the highest court in the land as his fascist rubber stamp, but these people get their complaint stricken by a magistrate judge for a cute, harmless cartoon of a dragon.
I mean, not really. This is weird shit to put in a legal document and is pretty pointless. It's also just hard to read due to contrast issues (which can be particularly relevant depending on any disabilities of interested parties, etc.). Like I'm pretty sure there is text on there that does not meet WCAG guidelines.
It's definitely not appropriate for a court document. I'd go farther and say putting anything to dramatically draw attention to oneself in a court document is inappropriate. That's simply not what court documents are for. They should strive to be as mundane, uninteresting, an impartial as possible.
There are a lot of absolutely terrible judges out there, which I'll never dare to excuse. But this particular instance isn't anywhere on that level. The judge is merely saying to cut this bullshit out and resubmit it without it.
From the records:
IT IS ORDERED that plaintiff's complaint (ECF No. 1) is STRICKEN. Plaintiff is directed to file an amended complaint, containing the same allegations as the original complaint, without the cartoon dragon by no later than May 5, 2025.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that plaintiff shall not file any other documents with the cartoon dragon or other inappropriate content.
Reddit's lawyer forum had some discussion:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Lawyertalk/comments/1ka9oc1/lets_all_start_filing_pleadings_with_a_giant/
The trial court ordered them to refile without the cartoon dragon, but did not order them to refile without a cartoon dragon.
This needs to be regulated. Like allowable D&D dragon type scales to years in practice
So, are chromatic dragons allowed at all, or just metallic? Or maybe just gold, for the lawful aspect.
Circuit split. Ninth Circuit allows chromatic obvi but Fifth has said only metallic
The judge missed the opportunity to put the order on paper with a sick dinosaur watermark
Go to his website. https://dragonlawyerspc.com/
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Millennials who grew up on anime are hitting the age of finishing their law degrees and I couldn’t be prouder
Sorry to tell you but I'm a millennial in law school right now and all my classmates are zoomers. 😬
Millenials?
Three or four years of study at a law school accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA)Oct 20, 2022 https://www.purduegloballawschool.edu/ How Long Does It Take to Become a Lawyer in ... That's five years of education followed by maybe 2 years of work on the job training) which works out a lot cheaper.Mar 23, 2025 https://www.reddit.com/ US Lawyers, why is Law school so long in the US ...
Does this person think 40 year olds are just finishing their law degrees? Or is this evidence of a bot with data only dating up to 2013?
Ones who grew up on anime so I'm assuming the young end of millennials
Are you aware just how long anime has been around? There are boomers who grew up on anime. Astro Boy is from the 60s.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that plaintiff shall not file any other documents with the cartoon dragon or other inappropriate content.
Sorry
Nah, they addressed that in the thread
I only grabbed a subset. Said that they'd need a more-dignified dragon to address that.
This shit is tacky af and does not belong on legal documents.
Subjective.
Subjective is not something you want on legal documents.
But he looks so confident and authoritative...
On what grounds?
EDIT:
Fed. R. Civ. P. 12(f)(1) allows a court to "strike from a pleading an insufficient defense or any redundant, immaterial, impertinent, or scandalous matter." Use of this dragon cartoon logo is not only distracting, it is juvenile and impertinent. The Court is not a cartoon.
Lmao, I've never heard of any other watermarks warranting this extreme response. Does the judge just get to decide whatever he wants is impertinent or scandalous?
The hilarious part is that they think the rule of law actually still applies in America. It's already dead. The message just hasn't yet traveled from the nerves back to the brain yet.
Lmao imagine people who equate costumes and dress-up as an actual judge of character calling other people "juvenile". I would argue that their attitude and shooting down a legal document to be "impertinent".
Does the picture change the wording? No
I'm so sick of fucking small-brain morons who can't get over something as stupid as appearances in things where it is completely irrelevant.
This fucker doesn't even powder his wig.
Way to tell on yourself, ya fuckin' scallywag.
impertinent
I don't know if there's a specific legal meaning
legal jargon isn't always plain English
but it might be that the meaning there is the other English meaning of "impertinent":
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/impertinent
impertinent (comparative more impertinent, superlative most impertinent)
Insolent, ill-mannered or disrespectful; Disregardful.
(archaic) Not pertaining or related to (something or someone); Irrelevant or useless.
I mean, the term right before it in the code is "immaterial", which is very close to the second common-language definition. Just because it's archaic in common-language use doesn't mean that it is in the legal world
a lot of legal terms with jargon meanings were in common use at one point.
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Yeah, sounds like it:
https://www.lsd.law/define/impertinent
Definition: Impertinent means something that is not relevant or important to the matter at hand. For example, if someone is talking about their favorite food and you start talking about your favorite color, that would be impertinent because it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. In legal terms, impertinent evidence or allegations are ones that do not help prove or disprove the case and are not important for the court to consider.
A lawfirm's watermark being deemed irrelevant or inconsequential as grounds for dismissal of a complaint seems like a rule that never applies to anybody else.
IT was not dismissed! He told them to resend it without the cartoon image.
Did you actually read the record? Because that's not at all what happened. Go back and read the next paragraph.
Unless I'm a judge and I don't like em
Yeah, “scandalous” is too much. I can see “impertinent”, though. I don’t agree, but courts are notoriously uptight.
If my lawyers pulled some shit like that I'd have different lawyers.
I would be suing my lawyer
I'm skeptical that, whether-or-not the judge can take issue with it, a dragon in a suit reaches the bar for malpractice or breach of fiduciary duty. Though I suppose that it'd be interesting to see Dragon Lawyer and a backup, non-dragon lawyer fighting that one out in court.