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Cory Booker to visit El Salvador in effort to return wrongly deported man to US
(www.theguardian.com)
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He obviously needs to bring armed forces with him and extract the guy and watch El Salvador blink in 1 second
And threaten bukele within an inch of his life. Then end it regardless.
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Honestly, what is he gonna be able to do?
Try to do the right thing. That's something.
I hope he is successful
Imagine 3 more senators do this, would that change things in your eyes? 5? 10? Etc. Even if unsuccessful it puts the pressure on those involved, making them look incompetent whether they ignore it or bend over backwards to justify it. It's a smart way deal with unethical actors.
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Human rights group, prison report.
The lemmy hot takes are getting as bad as hacker news
What is the "hot take"?
Do a helicopter escape, it will work
Chuck Schumer and the DNC must be FURIOUS! This TOTALLY RUINS their ENTIRE Plan of ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! These Representatives NEED to stick to the DNC tactic of LETTING Americans get Deported so they can WIN the Midterms!
A Nazi at a bar I used to frequent would definitely love to see Cortez and Crockett thrown into a male prison/camp.
They need to stop this 1 at a time thing. Get like 40 members of Congress, Senators and Representatives. Show up at CECOT with cameras live streaming and demand to be admitted. When they refuse, force your way in.
I don't believe anyone in El Salvador, including Bukele and the goons staffing the prison, want to have a live stream of them assaulting/arresting a bunch of US members of Congress. And if they do, maybe that'll help wake some Republican voters up to the fascism.
The cynic in me knows that since it would be only D's going down there, the fascists would use their absence to cram some shit through. The smart play would be to send only congresspeople and keep the senators here to make sure that nothing Mike LovesJohnson slides up can pass filibuster and get to the Diet Coke Desk.
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That's a bad move.
I disagree.
Bukele is an authoritarian asshole who is friendly with Trump. You want the entire Democrat rep crew to get held on bogus charges in a foreign country because Trump sees an opportunity?
Think.
I want somebody to do something more than a photo op. Yes, Bukele is an authoritarian just like Trump. But Trump relies on a large amount of his base thinking that he's in the right. I don't believe he nor Bukele want the optics of concentration camp guards assaulting a bunch of members of the US Congress. And I don't believe that a bunch of concentration camp guards would be willing to assault them on livestream to the entire world.
Show up with bodyguards. They don't need to be armed, but be physically intimidating and insist that they're going to enter and find the Americans who are being wrongfully detained.
All the Democrats, or really anyone in opposition to Trump, have been doing is playing it safe. If nobody is willing to take risks then the fascists will never feel threatened. If they had the balls to try what I suggested, one of two things will happen. They guards could get violent and assault, arrest, or even kill some members of the US Congress. That would spark outrage in the US. The opposition to Trump would grow and there would be even more motivation to stop him from sending people to foreign gulags.
More likely, IMO, the guards would back down and the members of Congress would prove that Bukele and Trump aren't as all powerful as they want to seem. They'd also get live video inside CECOT to show the world exactly how horrendous it is.
That's not really the point though. The reality is that Trump's psychos find loopholes, and they have one now.
We can either deal with the illegal nature of what happened to get innocent people kidnapped to El Salvador in the first place (Boasberg is working on that), or we can deal with the actual political influence of the Democrats, which isn't much but a whisper and bet at this point.
Bukele isn't going to budge because he feels safe with Trump. Make him less safe, and he will cave.
This:
The reality is that Trump’s psychos find loopholes, and they have one now.
Directly contradicts this:
We can either deal with the illegal nature of what happened to get innocent people kidnapped to El Salvador in the first place (Boasberg is working on that), or we can deal with the actual political influence of the Democrats, which isn’t much but a whisper and bet at this point.
The fascists aren't going to bow down and accept defeat just because a judge orders them to or Democrats vote really hard in Congress. They don't play by the rules. If/when Boasberg finds them in contempt and orders they send someone to El Salvador to bring people back, they'll ignore him and probably find a way to get him out of office. Democrats have already shown all their political "power" is completely impotent. It's not that it "isn’t much but a whisper and bet," it's non-existent. There is NOTHING we can do to help these people just by sticking to the rules of how politics are normally done.
I am talking about making Bukele feel less safe. You do that by directly challenging the base of his power. The base of his power is fear of getting sent to CECOT. Challenge that. Prove that people can go there and get people out of it. All they've been doing so far is political theater.
Your entire mindset is weak and simple about the problems at hand. You aren't think multiple steps out.
You seem to want violence without consequences. You also just seem to want everything on a platter. It doesn't work that way.
Your entire methodology is like this:
- Kill fascists
- ????¿??
- Win
Wow, are you so incredibly far off.
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The Rs would celebrate the Ds getting detained in El Salvadore. Everyone going together would be risky as F. If they all get detained, there are no Ds to push back against this shit.
Uh.... how exactly are any of them pushing back on anything right now?
Excellent argument. We have no constituents to begin with. Time to increase protests.
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He doesn’t have any tattoos, right?
What about the rest of them?
All of them were wrongly deported.
Trafficked*
Deportation, by definition, includes due process
This isn't deportation, it's internment
Kidnapping?
It is definitely kidnapping. But it's more than that. It's human trafficking and genocide.
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Correct, although I imagine they don't want to risk the optics of coming to the rescue of everyone only to find out after a court case that at least one of those people were actually guilty, even though you'd have saved hundreds from wrongful imprisonment and stood up for the constitution.
Voters are just too dumb, I guess.
I mean that would be a win. You can show why due process is important and that justice is served with it.
How is it a loss to use the justice system as it was written to convict someone of a crime?
If Democrats are so worried about messaging that they'll let innocent people rot in prison and only attempt to save one guy for a "win" that just means they actually don't care about any of them.
I think 14 (ish) of them were actually charged with a crime, although none of them had a trial, let alone were found guilty and sentenced. And even if they were found guilty of something, I'm pretty sure locking someone up indefinitely in a foreign torture prison/slave labor camp qualifies for the 8th Amendment's prohibition on "cruel and unusual punishment."
There is no legal or moral justification for sending even the most hardened convicted criminal there.
Yeah, like I said it's mostly optics because a reasonable person should know this isn't ok in general, but the common voter isn't reasonable. At least that's how I interpret it. Thanks for bringing up the specific number, too.
There is also the legality of it and if it is treasonous. The one person at least the senators have some saftey nets from the Supreme Court but they still are at risk here.
I have a feeling this will be the first politician to be arrested.
Why would you think that? Just because he's not a white m-ohhhhh right.
Yeah, no, you're probably right. But they're going to fuck up enough at some point. Hopefully we'll be here to make them pay for it, and I like Booker. (yeah yeah miss me with the 'he voted for Israel' links, I got it, thanks.)
I have a feeling you're wrong.
Cool.
Absolutely.
*By El Salvador and put into an El Salvador prison, for trying to visit a political prisoner.
Many have been arrested in the US and abroad over the years for various reasons.
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Corey booker gonna be locked up there too
No he won't.