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It's been ages since I've really done some deal hunting online with how ubiquitious Amazon is I've realized I'm not up to date with the current ecosystem for finding trustworthy online storefronts. Do you have any sources/tips for finding good quality products (especially with all the AI slop that exists nowadays)?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago

Reminds me of a thread I saw here a while ago on "What if advertising were illegal?"

I've found the best method for reducing my need on Amazon is to just buy less crap. Online shopping is simple because you can get stuff immediately, but I don't think anybody "needs" 3-4 new products per week.

Aside from that, I try and support local: find local shops that sell items similar to my style, or trust word of mouth for online retailers that are good. At the end of the day, as long as you're buying good-quality stuff (which oddly seems to spend less on advertisements) it doesn't really matter where exactly you buy from, as it's all pretty similar in price / quality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Easy ... we don't really have Amazon.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

For my country there is a price comparison website at geizhals.at which is where I usually start. They also seem to be a thing for Germany, the UK, and Poland. Maybe there are similar services for other countries too?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I just go directly to the company's website and go from there. Usually it's the same price, on rare occasions it's a few dollars more but to me it's worth it not to do business with Amazon. I've passed up on buying things entirely because they were only available on Amazon.

In fact, over the last couple years I've been transitioning from buying online to buying from small-business brick and mortar stores. Sure it's less convenient but it's also less wasteful, it keeps resources within my local economy and I'm buying a lot less junk that I don't really need.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My problem is that so many small businesses in my region are run by shitheads with terrible customer service, or they don't treat their employees well, or they insult younger people, or they're straight up broadcasting their politics in their business.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I try small brick and mortar as much as possible but the up charges for the identical product can really hurt, like why is the same brand of pet food twice the cost if I drive 10 miles for it vs if I order it online

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because retailers are middle-men by definition. Large online resellers just have much less overhead, so the cut they take for being a middleman is much smaller. They often also have the bargaining power to reduce their cost price with the supplier. You should look for things that are produced in large quantities locally, and find ways to purchase direct from supplier, if you want to save money buying locally rather than spending more to support local business. Buying from independent local retailers is for indirect social and economic benefit. We should all endeavour to do it as much as we can but it's also very hard to justify when cost differences are large.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Aliexpress. It's the same shit.

I have a few specialty storefronts I'll go to for specific items.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't trust any networking equipment, anything that can send data off your network back home unfortunately.

But yes, I'd say 90+% you can easily get off there. I got a Benchmade bugout knockoff recently, $150 for this tiny knife, $12 on AE. after honing and a drop of oil, beautiful useful knife. The mini griptilian is another great knockoff. Packaging came near identical to the real knife. I open boxes, not fight hand to hand, even though I'm sure it'd cut flesh just as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Honest question, not trying to be adversarial. Do you have any sources behind not trusting networking equipment (I've seen the claim from others apply to electronics more broadly) from AliExpress? I don't buy much from Amazon or AliExpress so I'm not directly impacted but I've seen that caveat a lot and haven't seen reasons why.

Edit: none of the responses to me are specific to AliExpress which pretty much confirms my thoughts that the caution exercised should be equally applied to any retailer.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Not perfect but if you can't get it from the company's website or at a local shop, try Target and Walmart they both offer free ship options too. Lastly, something like Google shopping sometimes works.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Is Walmart really any better than Amazon?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you are using Amazon, you can look for products from small businesses. There are many that only sell on Amazon. At least your helping someone else at the same time.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Slickdeals!

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I personally look to see if the company has their own storefront. And sometimes it pays off in unexpected ways.

For example I was in the market for a soldering iron. I found a solid Hakko one on Amazon, but I decided to check their site first and, lo and behold, they had the exact same one for sale for the exact same price. BUT I could choose what color I wanted; Amazon only had the standard blue/yellow, whereas they had two other color choices.
On top of that they included an extra goodie of my choosing, which I chose their coffee mug (I forget the other options).

So because I took the extra time to look around, I was able to get one in a color I preferred, got an extra item out of it, and cut out the unnecessary middle man. Win-win-win as they say.

Sometimes, though, it's just not possible. I was in the market for a triple monitor stand as I use a unique configuration (ultrawide as my main, with two regular widescreens side-by-side above it). The only viable stand I found was available either through Amazon or Walmart. They did not sell directly from their site. So I had to choose which devil I wanted to support.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

If your search engine allows you to configure your results, you can set it to block any results from amazon.com. I use Kagi and have been pretty happy with that feature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Search for real businesses that sell items near you or online. Also, eBay. It has a sort by distance option so you can see if there’s something near you for faster shipping. eBay is full of Amazon dropshippers so if there’s free expedited shipping and free returns and they have thousands of feedback, they may be a dropshipper.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I order directly from the companies or buy used off eBay, Craigslist, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I will use suck duck go shopping and Google shopping to see other retailers I might not know about.

Google shopping has a function where you can look for items in stock in retail stores near you. That's helpful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Be careful how you suck the duck!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It isn't easy, but it's worth it. I find I'm calling a lot of local stores lately, because I hate shopping in person, and selections are limited. I find I am spending about 10% more per item on average, but I'm also buying fewer things in general. I'm still shopping at chains, like Microcenter, Staples, Dick's, and Lowes, but I'm trying to be intentional about going to local or thrift stores first.

I also shop on AliExpress more now, when I need some cheap garbage, but I'm trying to stop that, too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Same for me. Im just trying to buy less.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Piracy.

As in, plunder the ships, get the booty (treasure).

yaRrr 🏴‍☠️

I'm something of a Captain Jack Sparrow myself.

Edit: Serious Answer:

Boston Harbor. Dump the entire warehouse into it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Amazon used to not deliver in my country so we developed our own, with 24h free delivery, blackjack and hookers.

Now that Amazon figured out the custom taxes for us, it is too late as we have our own local alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Somewhat depending on your country, local shops may have opened online storefronts during COVID. Them having a physical presence means their products tend to be decent quality (as most customers look at them physically before buying).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A lot of searching. Then I add good alternatives to a "buy Canadian" list I keep at Github. That makes it a lot easier the next time around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If it's a public list, feel free to share it on [email protected] :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Care to share that list? I may not be Canadian, but want to support people dealing with America's bullshit if I can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Hey, yeah, definitely.

It's https://github.com/Visiblink/CanadianRetailers

I just started it when all the tariffy-goodness began, so it's bound to see additions whenever I (or anyone who wants to add to it) shop for things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (10 children)

I cut out Amazon completely after ordering from them four to five times a week. Heres how I did it:

  1. Make a list (I use Google Keep) and see if you can get it locally or from thrift stores

(Many people who do buy from Amazon immediately donate it after they're done.)

  1. If you can't find it used or local, use eBay! They have free shipping, an ethical CEO that doesn't make their employees piss into jars, and they are MUCH cheaper than Amazon 9/10 (not taking into account the prime membership).

  2. Buy directly from the vendor and look for promo codes if 1 or 2 don't fit your lifestyle.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you can't find it used or local, use eBay!

About half the time I try that, the seller just buys it from walmart/amazon and has it drop shipped to me. So I'm not sure how much good that does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How are they making a profit doing that? Unless I sell for very low prices (which I do sometimes) it can be difficult to sell even at market price.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

They buy the item for cheaper than they sell it for

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I’ve had this too. At least the fees don’t go to Bezos

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

They have free shipping

... depending on the seller. YMMV, widely.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Several times I have purchased an item on email only to have it arrive from Amazon. The sellers were using both sites and there was no way to tell from the eBay listings. Big sad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is it delivered via Amazon or just in Amazonian packaging? I guess I don't mind either as much, since I can't expect a small seller to keep two separate streamlined processes....

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

This! I use eBay very often

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

I like iherb.com for supplements, tea, olive oil, and castile soap. And whatever else you may find there amongst the strange assortment of things they carry. Other than that, I've been going right to manufacturers websites, except for mechanical keyboard stuff, where I search a whole bunch of different specialty vendor sites.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 6 days ago (4 children)

You could use Amazon as kind of a browser or search and then go directly to the brand's web site. Any particular thing you're looking for?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

This has also saved me on more than one occasion as I've tried to find the same "brand" of something I was going to buy on another site, only to find it was actually an Amazon product they were trying to push. Dodged that bullet for sure

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

In a few cases I saved over 10% by going straight to the manufacturer. Shipping was slower but rarely do I need stuff next day.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Showrooming Amazon. How Ironic. I love it!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is what I do. I sleep better at night knowing I costing them a few cents by only using them as a search engine.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (6 children)

You don't cost them. You benefit them by giving them all the knowlege about what you want, how you search for it, what details are the most interesting for you etc.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep, this. Net positive for Amazon and you don’t even need to give them any of your money. Still better than giving them your money on top of it though, I imagine

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

Go directly to the manufacturer isn't the bargain hunt, but it's the best option. Amazon won't even send you the right product occasionally. Even if you buy it from Amazon ultimately because the manufacturer uses them, they'll be alerted to the sale.

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