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Senate Republicans do not have enough votes for cloture, a legislative procedure to end debate and move for a vote. Republicans only have a 53-47 seat majority, and 60 votes are needed to invoke cloture. If Democrats don’t provide enough votes for cloture, the government is almost certainly headed toward a shutdown Friday.

Despite promising a fight, Senate Democrats are reportedly considering a vote swap. In exchange for providing enough votes to end debate on the GOP spending bill, Senate Republicans would allow a Democratic amendment to continue to fund the government at current levels for the next month to come to the floor, known as a continuing resolution, or CR. The Democratic amendment is almost certain to fail.

Democrats opposed to the GOP bill would then be allowed to vote “no” on the broader spending bill, allowing them to seem like they’re voting against the GOP measure despite providing the needed support to bring it to the floor. Democrats have criticized the GOP plan, which would give Musk and Trump more power to slash the federal government and also cut $1 billion from Washington, D.C.’s local budget.

Nina Smith, a Democratic strategist, said this kind of wheeling and dealing is exactly why Americans have lost faith in the party.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

This is what "vote blue no matter who" gets us. Weak, bad dems who have no affinity for any sort of party platform. They just printed a "D" next to their name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well we knew dems sux its the gop that suxed more and shouldn't even have a chance. Vote blue until no more red.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

yes but we have lost. For good, maybe. And 'vote blue no matter who' incremental change didnt work to hold the line against steady rightwing pressure and rightwing change year after year. We've slowly lost the society FDR created. The ideas are scorned by the party that created them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Chuck is a schmuck.

You don't negotiate people who have a proven history of not dealing in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why the hell do dems think republicans are just gonna play nice? And why vote for this fucking bill? Are they idiots?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Worse, they’re liars. They work for the oligarchs while wearing a pride flag.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's exactly like Collins and Manchin. They put up a big show of fighting and then just vote for it anyways.

The DNC must be abolished if this is their version of opposing the destruction of our civil service.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Seriously. They honestly think that they can help move along and destroy the country and that 1) everyone will forget in 18 months that they voted to capitulate and won't remember if they voted for a shutdown, and 2) that they will STILL easily pick up wins in 2026 if they capitulate.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

God, fucking useless.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

We have tried to tell liberals for decades this is what their party is. And they kept punching left when they should have been listening

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

I knew the corporate dems would cave. Especially Gutless Chuck do-nothing Schumer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are commenting or reacting, take the 2 minutes to call your senators and tell them how useless Democrats are showing themselves to be. 5calls.org.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

If you haven't figured it out, they don't listen to us

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

JFC WTF GFY U POS.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These fuckers are so spineless. It's no wonder the US has gone full fascist.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Schumer has a spine. Granted it's only when working class people try to enforce the rules on him.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago

I’m so fucking angry at this. They all have to fucking go.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

They sold us out long ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

The primaries will be a blood bath for Democrats. I’ll bring the bath bombs and soap for the bubbles.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Primary them all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Democrats need youthful leaders who are actually willing to work.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My expectations are in the basement at this point. And yet, they still fail to meet them. Jesus fuck.

This spineless, gormless, feckless idiocy shouldn’t surprise or disappoint me any more at this point, but here we are. I must admit to feeling spikes of fury at the thoroughly manifest incompetence of our “opposition party”.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Democrats are enabling again. Why do we even have 2 parties at this point

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Dems roll over at the promise of a belly rub

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fossils are selling us out. We’re fucked in a way that has no precedent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

They like trip and his plan. They’re complicit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its like they literally never want to win an election again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I've said for years our goal is to never win an election, but to keep leftists from winning.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AOC should have run against him when she had the chance.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This country still has centrists (GOP lite) for some reason. The Democratic party would spend as much money as they need to make her lose.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or illegally collude like they did to Bernie.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Morally bankrupt to say the least

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

No, it wasn't. Political parties have no true legal requirements to hold primaries or anything such thing. They are private clubs that get to set the rules.

Primaries allow for the illusion of choice.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Schumer has to go

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

If we somehow make it through this all these fucking spineless democrats need to be held accountable for enabling these traitors and recalled.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Great, we have a coalition in power. Except that coalition is formed of the Nazi party and the Democrats who capitulate to their every whim

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I actually can kind of see what they're doing? So what's the strategy here? Are they wanting to do the cloture and move for a vote to the floor? But then that would mean that they are hoping GOP is going to flip that would ultimately push to a shut down. They're really hinging on GOP to have enough non-Trump loyalists to do that but I can't really see it happening.

So yeah this kind of shit is also what is caving faith in for democrats.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

You're overthinking it. They don't in any way expect Republicans to sink a Trump bill. Hell, they already have a yes vote from Fetterman. They just want to lose without it looking like full complicity.

The Republicans could have made this a majority vote. They get a few of those each year, but they didn't want to blow one on a continuing resolution. Luckily the Democrats are here to give them that for free.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Make Repubs cave - obstruct obstruct obstruct!

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