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I fled Reddit due to the authoritarian mod craziness, but Lemmy.world seems infested with too much Communist craziness. I'm leftist, but communism is idiocy. Is there an instance that leans more democratic socialist but refrains from going off the deep end?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

.world is the most liberal place on the lemmy lmao. If they are too left for you idk what to tell you

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’m leftist, but

classic lol

.world is about as anticommunist as you can expect, if that's not enough for you maybe you could relocate to one of the Nazi servers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

says the .ml person commenting on .world. it does not matter what any particular places people is like unless they defederate from each other. @[email protected] is talking about his experience and is likely not seperating out where users come from. in addition anyone can make a user on any open instance. I actually would like to see more closed instances that are about a particular local groups like sci fi conventions or makerspaces and such.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As someone similar to you, blocking and stuff seems the right approach vs. trying to find a specific instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bingo. Making a new account somewhere else likely won't help. The only way it would is if all the content OP objects to comes from a single instance and they find another instances that's defederated frrom that source instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

@[email protected]

@[email protected] @[email protected]

adding my voice to the mix. I have always advocated blocking. My experience with mmo chat taught me that a cesspool can turn into a pretty nice place with some blocking. My basic rule is subscribe to what I like and block what I don't and everything else im indifferent to. don't like sports then block those communities. like comics and subscribe to those. indifferent to animal pictures then let it lie and you will see them when you browse all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

i was as naive as OP back in the day, it's alright bro you'll get there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (19 children)

You should use Hexbear. There aren't any communists there. Just posers who think communism means supporting dictatorships.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

It's called "Bluesky" lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the de facto gatekeepers of the genocidal liberal death cult status quo on the fediverse aren’t liberal enough for you, I think you’d feel right at home at https://shitlib.cuck/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Username checks out

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

🤔

lemmy.dbzer0.com is anarchist and stongly hates all states, both USA and the Russia, China types.

lemmy world is neoliberal, I mean, tankies do post there, but the moderation is mostly neoliberal and are anti-violence absolutists, even if its directed towards nazis

lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and hexbear.net (now chapo.chat) are tankies, avoid those

Pretty much everyone else on lemmy are anti-authoritarian and pro- socialist policies, some are social democrats, others are democratic socialists, some are anarchists.

If you don't like tankies:

lemmy.dbzer0.com (we have [email protected] 😉)

sh.itjust.works

lemmy.ca

sopuli.xyz

piracy community is blocked on lemmy.world btw, so you might as well joine us, or any of my recommended ones.

TLDR: lemmy.world is not "communist", just just a few tankies that love to post thinnly veiled authoritarianism.

Edit: Also, you are probably seeing federated posts from lemmy.ml, I block most of those communities except like a few non-political ones like c/privacy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Also Blåhaj. Seems to be pretty anarchist from what I've seen, and I'd say Blåhaj is perfect if you're queer, especially trans.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

.world is hardly the home of the tankie, what you see might be posts from lemmy.ml

There are two other places known as lemmygrad and hexbear that are outright communist/tankie that you'll see occasionally brigade when someone posts anything positive about the USA.

This and most others are pretty sane. One that comes to mind for what you're asking particularly might be https://slrpnk.net/signup who seem kind of left but not Stalin left.

Otherwise there's the join Lemmy link at the bottom of any given instance to look through.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

seconding solarpunk, it’s a beautiful movement in general

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm surprised you see a ton of that on lemmy.world, always found that instance rather tame and moderate, at least by lemmy standards. Certainly compared to Hexbear, ml and Lemmygrad. Are you sure those weren't federated posts from those instances? Anyway, lemm.ee is pretty neutral, lemmy.dbzer0.com leans more anarchist. But you could also just stay on .world and subscribe to communities that align with your views on whatever instance. Unless you have an issue with the moderation on .world specifically, it doesn't really matter.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Spamming emojis just makes you look ridiculous and like your opinions don't matter

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Replying uselessly to comments you don’t like just to defend a censorship-happy neoliberal hivemind hotbed makes you look like a petty, bored, very gullible person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd call .world default liberal instead of neoliberal personally. A lot of demsoc types.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

That’s fair. However, I’d say anyone that is just fine with the deaths of >50,000 innocent people because of some tenuous revenge premise fall closer on the politicial spectrum to Reagan or Bush than anyone I’d even consider labelling a “liberal”.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Guy, you need to get outside more. This person’s reaction matches about 95% of people in the world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am. I've traveled internationally some amount. I am sure it varies by country, but the people who have a notable reaction to China/USSR-style communism, from outside the US, have a much stronger hostility to it than the US people I know. Because generally they have more experience with it.

US people don't like socialism, and think it is "communism." That part is true, but that wasn't what I was talking about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The idea that so many of the people on Lemmy are communists is what led me to think you're an American. I am too, which is why I know the bias of the American political spectrum starts way more to the right than most of the world. So Americans tend to label ideas more left leaning than they really are.

The communists and tankies are about 90% on the lemmy.ml instance. The rest of Lemmy is left but most as are not communists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The communists and tankies are about 90% on the lemmy.ml instance. The rest of Lemmy is left but most as are not communists.

Yeah. In case it wasn't clear, I was talking about being able to encounter overt authoritarian communists at all on lemmy.world, not saying that most of the lemmy.world users themselves are communists. My reaction was very specifically to the word "communist" and not referring to the existence of anarchist / general working-class oriented stuff on Lemmy.

I think most of the lemmy.world users fall pretty much in the sensible region of opinion: Israel is bad, the CCP is bad, Russia's war in Ukraine is bad. Gay people are ok. Unions are good and the US state is oppressive. Just normal stuff (within my own personal Overton window). Of course a lot of US people would see that as some horrifying communism, but that's not at all what I was saying, although I can see maybe it came across that way.

Mostly I was saying that I can sympathize with this person coming to lemmy.world and seeing federated content that says "yay China, Tienanmen Square was exaggerated, all this stuff about North Korea is just giving them a bad rap because imperialism" and having this shocked reaction because of it. Whether or not it originates from lemmy.world, it's weird to see it on lemmy.world or on the modern internet at all. Usually the free exchange of ideas can educate people out of that pretty quickly. I think it's a symptom of (a) Lemmy having particular features which enable someone to create an echo chamber specifically for proliferating that stuff (b) the world as a whole has gotten more unhinged from reality and so it's easier for counterfactual stuff to find a solid footing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Try just joining a local domain which is ostensibly apolitical, then find communities that meet your needs

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Let's talk about this in a little more detail.

What do you consider going off the deep end? What do you consider leftist? Which ideas do you consider idiocy? What is your idea of a society worth living in?

I personally am open to any ideas that exclude discrimination of identity. For me the tolerance paradoxon applies.

I'm happy to hear your thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I'm also looking for a place without edgy or crazy people.

For me its:

Democratic: yes

Socialism/social net/sharing/helping: yes

Dictatorial: no

Tankie: no

Undemocratic: no

China or CCCP/URSS worship: no

Soviet whitewashing: no

That's about it.

Edit: I was looking for a community not an instance (I have my own but I still uses .world as I had some trouble, time to migrate back home I guess :-) ) but thanks for all helpful comments!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

That’s .ml

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lemmy.dbzer0.com - anarchist, hates all states, both USA and Russia/China types

Other non-tankie options are

sh.itjust.works - shhhh... 🤫 it... just works... 😉

lemmy.ca - Canadian 🇨🇦

sopuli.xyz - Run by a Finn 🇫🇮

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

db0 is a really cool person. Has the piracy sub there too :-)

Sopuli is very pro Ukrainian. Cool good finnish guy it seems.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Block the Lemmy.ml instance and there goes most of those people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think thats valid. You don't have to accept or look at everything.

Do you mind sharing what your ideal society looks like? I think a lot of folks share common ideas but have vastly different labels for them.

I'll go ahead:

I personally want to work. It can be fun. I want to do things I'm actually good at. I want to be able to afford food and housing. I want to know that i wont starve if I become sick or disabled. I want to be able to survive when I'm too old to work regularly. I want my family to be safe no matter what.

I think those are pretty understandable goals. I want to live in a world where this applies to as many people as possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah we all have to work (or contribute to society by our possible means) that's a given I think.

No ultra rich people (but you need to dream, so no communist pay either). UBI that covers basic food & housing. Art and science as the goal of society (after taking care of everyone).

The problem is what to do with all egomaniacs, is there enough benevolent people or will nobody become a dentist if you don't need to work (that much)? I mean lots of people get up in the morning and spends their whole life working, because of some crazy angry people (don't believe me? Go work in some big companies). How do we re-train those people, how do we keep an army? Lots and lots of open ended questions here.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

many instances, like mine, are 'generic on-ramps'. their 'main' purpose is to provide unfettered access to all other instances.

in this way you curate your own feeds by subscribing to what you want.

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