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For me, anything 25 FPS or higher is 100% fine and I'll be enjoying my time. I never play competitive online shooter games ever, though. All single player ones like GOW and the likes. I game on a 60 Hz 4k monitor. GPU is AMD RX 6600 alongside Ryzen 7 5700G and 32GB RAM. My games are set to meduim most of the time at 4k. Demanding titles are on low. Surprisingly, GOW and GOW Ragnarok are both set to ultra and I still get around 40ish FPS.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Depends on the game. If it's not really demanding on reaction time, and the game is locked framerate I'm fine with 30, like Okami. However if the game is not locked FPS and I still can't hit 60 FPS at least on my 1440p monitor I'd probably just play something else (because I know I could have better experience is I could run it).

However for shooter and reaction heavy games I always aim to max out my 144 Hz monitor, even 60 FPS can feel sluggish for me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Well, I first played Dragon Age Origins with the framerate fluctuating between 10 and 20 FPS. Wasn't the most fun I've ever had, but ever since 30 - 60 felt like luxury. So yeah, anywhere from 10 to 30 is fine for me, but the more active a game is the closer to 30 minimum with a target of 60

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

For me, it highly depends. Turn-based strategy games, I can easily play at a much lower framerate (30 is fine tbh though I always appreciate more). FPS-style games? 60 is a bare minimum, but 100+ is what I would consider to be enjoyable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

25FPS and 480 pixels vertically is enough for me to get sucked in and forget the world around me.
Which is nice cause that way I can play open world RPGs like Kingdom Come on an old laptop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

40 is fine, I can go lower depending on how nadlyO want the experience. I grew up relatively poor, I am not going to completely pass up on an experience I am looking forward to over a lower framerate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I try to get 60 FPS, 30 is fine and i could live with 20

10 if the alternative is lag spikes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

I only recently experienced the luxury of higher frame rates.

I'll put up with 30. I usually don't notice it after a while, especially if it's steady.

60 is preferred, and I always aim for performance if I can.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I play a ton of simulation and strategy games (and some that I would hazard to classify as virtual railfanning/model railroading, like Railroads Online and Transport Fever 2) so I crank up the prettiness, download as much custom content as will load and enjoy the scenery at 20-40 FPS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

40-45.

There are a lot of games at 30 I've played through just fine, but for FPS games that extra 10-15 is about my minimum unless it's on console with aim assist. I grew up playing Saints Row 2 at single-digit framerates, but I just can't do that anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Aaaah, good old saints Row. Love that game

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

@penquin I never owned a monitor with more than 60 fps cause the newer ones are too expensive.

So I got used to the panels with bad colors and "low" fps. No free sync or gsync just good old vsync 😂

Also not sure if my 3070 would be able to get a 120 fps 2k screen working with high settings for games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Back in the days of CRT displays I had a 120Hz Trinitron, to pair with the video card and 3D goggles (which shuttered each eye in turn) to give 60Hz per eye

No way could that system or video card keep up with anything more modern than Turok 1 but it was nice for the couple of years it was good enough.

I wish I still had that Trinitron, I'd need a deeper desk though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@psud I do like my displays cause they are so old right now and still working. One of them is that old that the most modern connection he got is DVI. To get that working I was forced to buy an adapter for my graphics card.

Because I got two displays the color of them is so different that if I move a window between them to be shown on both I can visually see how broken the colors are on both of them.

The also have issues with ghosting if there are fast movements. I still like them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I have to keep a VGA connected monitor for my old machines - the oldest drives it at CGA. That monitor is an old LCD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That made me laugh 😂. Simple is always good, as long as you're having fun. 3070 would definitely do even 4k at 30FPS on medium or low. My RX 6600 does that easily on pretty much every game.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@penquin
Well as I said I do want a new one but that's the case for 2 - 3 years now 😂

The fate of a family father. You feel like you should pay for stuff which is more useful for the little ones. So the money is still good invested.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

❤️. Bro, that's beautiful. Keep it that way. The guilt starts pouring right away once I think of buying anything for myself. I'm so fucking cheap when it comes to buying shit for myself. You'll find me lurking around the Facebook market place getting the cheapest deals possible, and they get all the good stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Highly depends on the type of game. For First person shooters, 120+ fps is a must. I skipped the more recent CoDs because I couldn't get them to run at that target consistently enough on my PC without turning them into blurry DLSS smear.

Racing games, where motion is typically always going in one direction with only smooth direction changes, a lower framerate is fine (like 60 to 80), although the added smoothness from high framerate is obviously still nice.

Slower paced or turn based games I'm fine with going as low as 40 FPS, as long as it's consistent without drops and frame pacing issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

30 is acceptable for most games but stuff where the gameplay is mainly the movement itself (platformer, racing, first person shooter) needs to hit 60. I could go lower than 30 for the visuals on a lot of games but that’s the threshold where the interface starts feeling unresponsive and that really gets to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I started playing on a PC in the 90s so as long as it’s above 40 with consistent frame pacing it’s fine. Those VRR displays and games targeting 40 are a game changer for me and why I play on Xbox with a modern LG OLED.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For the longest time I thought 30fps is good, but now I always want 60 fps - 50 is my minimum. Id rather drop some shadows, clouds, lighting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Man, people kill for those clouds and shadows and I'll never understand that. I guess I'm just too old school 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Anything realtime needs to be at least 60 fps, the closer to my monitor 144Hz the better. Something like a city builder or turn based strategy or non-time-critical relaxed co-op stuff is fine to be 30+.

I'd never want to play any shooter at lower than 60, no RTS, no racing game and so on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I too grew up on machines that were mid-low range and was constantly asking more of them than they could handle, so I learned to stomach pretty miserable FPS. In the end though it's highly context sensitive - the less movement (and in particular camera movement) the game has the lower the frame rate you can get away with.

As a general rule I would say 25 FPS is the absolute lower limit, but around 40 is probably more in line with your "this is fine and I'm going to have a great time" definition. However, for something like a fast paced shooter it's more like 60 FPS minimum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

For shooters, especially competitive ones, as high as possible up to my monitor's refresh rate (165Hz). Everything else 60 FPS is fine. Even 30 FPS can be fine, especially if I'm playing something on Switch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Around maybe 40 or so I start to notice it. 50 and higher I'm content. My monitor only supports 60 Hz. Around 20 or less I'm annoyed. It's tolerable for turn based games though. Not enjoyable, just tolerable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I played Civilization 7 at 15 for hours before noticing something was off

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I played BG3 at less than 15fps for a while, but upgraded my PC when the video card crashed on about half of the cutscenes and whenever fireworks were used at close range

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

My target is 60, but depending on the game I find framerates down to 20 technically playable (if it's stable), but I need a bit of time to get used to it.

For framerates above 60, however, I can't really feel any difference so I usually set a cap at 60 to reduce heat and because the on board sound card is poorly isolated and picks up noise from the gpu.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

25 and above with drops is fine for me. I grew up with an ati card on low end machine so if the stupid game runs im happy. Don't understand the stupid " 4k 250hz perfect black oled or its shit for stupid people" attitude. As long as my 1080p doesn't ghost its fine. T. Made art for many games some of you have played.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I don't really obsess about framerates myself and I've never had the kind of budget to have the latest and greatest parts but from what I've seen, somewhere around 30fps is fine.

And even though you didn't ask, the last setting that I ever sacrifice is draw distance. I'll turn down textures and shadows and reflections and everything else before I sacrifice draw distance. I don't need realistic graphics to be able to immerse myself and have a good time. But things popping in and out of existence in front of your eyes are the ultimate immersion breaker for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

60 FPS, I can't stand an unstable framerate, I prefer to lower quality/effects if I can't get constant 60 FPS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

My personal minimum is a stable 40/s, which is roughly where I start noticing the lower framerate without paying attention to it.
With 30/s I need to get used to it, and I usually underclock (or, rather, power-limit) my GPU to hit an average 50 unless the game in question is either highly unstable (e.g. Helldivers 2) or the game is so light I don't have to care (e.g. Selaco).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Depends on the game, but also the context.

Maybe this has changed since I've upgraded my gaming specs but I used to average 14 FPS on Kerbal Space Program and had a great time with it, docking is a nightmare at that frame rate but otherwise it's more than playable.

Back in my poverty gaming days I 100%-ed a pirated The Simpsons Hit and Run with potato graphics at slide show speeds, I'm talking like multiple seconds per frame with around 80% frame droppage.

Nowadays I just care that it looks decent and runs smoothly for the games I play, which is mostly Civilization and Stellaris

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Am I the only one who just plays games and doesn't know what FPS he's getting? If it plays, I'm good.

Or,... maybe I am missing out on something? Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I used to be that and I have no idea how and when I started caring. But you know, I'm turning that shit off as of now and will now look at it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

i am 100% with you. there must be something to it if it's that important to so many people but i genuinely can't tell the difference as long as it's stable

and if it does make a difference, for competitive games wouldn't you want it to be consistent between all players instead of "better" based on whoever has more horsepower? it all makes no sense to me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Depends on what I'm playing.

I can comfortably play some games down to 12fps ±3ish, if it isn't something that's fast paced.

I have yet to play anything where I'm skilled enough for higher than 30fps to matter response-wise, and while I can notice the difference between 60fps and 240fps on my monitor, I gotta say it doesn't do much for me.

Maybe I just don't know what to look for, what I'm missing, or how to set up my laptop right, but who knows. My eyes could be stuck on 720p for all I know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

The average frame rate isn't nearly as important as the stability. I'll gladly take 30FPS over 60 + frame drops.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

I think I'm a bit spoiled with my 144 Hz monitor; anything below maybe 120 FPS starts to bug me. Thankfully my PC is pretty powerful and I don't really play graphics-heavy games (mostly just Minecraft) so my framerate is usually quite stable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

So long as the game doesn't lag enough that I have input lag, I'll gladly play through a game at prettyich any FPS.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm hypersensitive to framerate and have a 170Hz monitor so 60 FPS is minimum for me. But even that's a bit too low. Yes, I'm a snob.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

...back in the CRT era i needed at least a 72Hz refresh rate to not feel any discomfort; that doesn't exactly correlate with framerates on modern LCD displays but i think it's a good proxy for the threshold of general perceptiblity...

...are greater framerates smoother?..sure, especially in my peripheral vision, but 72 FPS is generally good-enough beyond which returns start diminishing...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Nope, you're not a snob, you just have a different preference, and that's totally fine.

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