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Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn't want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure he was an asset and Ghislaine is the agent. Both based in who’s alive, and whose father’s funeral was attended by multiple former heads of Mossad.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite conspiracy on the Citadel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What would they have had to gain? Fox news would just pivot around it and move on. Trump was already a convicted rapist, tons of catholic priests are forgiven among their community for child rape, so it's not hard to imagine Trump walking away clean from the whole thing.

Meanwhile, dems probably had a couple big donors to lose and possibly a former president. Sounds like a bad trade when the whole party's MO is to keep their hands clean and never play dirty.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's horribly pragmatic but I have to believe there would be at least a couple of politicians who have the most basic of morals that would release it if they got their hands on the info

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Protecting child rapists is one of the dirtiest play you can play.

Releasing the list, prosecuting the rapists and making this the topic in all interviews going forward to expose every last one of them as well as possible ties to Israeli intelligence, that would be the clean play.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (6 children)

And Bill Gates, probably. I have a feeling that was a reason for Melinda to split because she has never given a straightforward answer. It was just, "Oh, we're splitting for reasons."

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because most of their big money donors are also on the list.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If someone hands you $50,000 a year with no questions every year, it’s hard to say no when they squeeze your hand and ask you to reconsider releasing it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Two sides of the same coin. The Dems claim to protect the underdog, the Reps claim to oppress the underdog. Each identity politics appeals to a different demographic.

The thing that's the same between them is that they ALWAYS protect capital.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Simple, they have more to loose than what they stand to gain.

There are almost certainly several high profile democrats on the list, they don't want to expose themselves so they are blocking the release.

But ok, let's assume that the list has zero democrats on it, that doesn't matter at this point, since it will be extremely difficult to find someone who the public can actually trust to give them real unbiased data.

The republicans knows that they can just lie and say that anyone in the democrats is on the list and just about everyone of their supporters will believe them

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[–] [email protected] 218 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I assume because there were some high profile dems on the list.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yup. Everybody's just going to pretend nothing ever happened and move on.

Just to be clear, that is not what should happen

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Even if it comes to light, I have doubts anything will come of it. Look what happened with the Panama papers. Basically only Iceland did anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Iceland had the highest profile result so perhaps it may seem that way, but many countries investigated and prosecuted individuals. In addition, it caused the entire global financial system to redouble AML efforts.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago

Australia acted on it for what it’s worth.

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