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The West was moving to the right — and then Donald Trump got elected again

Something is happening among America's allies, and it's a tremendous relief. For some years now, we've seen the MAGA-infused global right gaining a foothold amongst western democracies, largely driven by the same demagogic, nationalist, pseudo-populism that has fueled Donald Trump's dominance on the American right.

Some countries like Hungary have served as a sort of experiment for the kind of post-democratic autocracies dreamt of by the modern right wing in which government co-opts, intimidates and de-legitimizes the political opposition to create an authoritarianism that dominates the culture and the politics without a lot of overt violence.

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

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[–] [email protected] 206 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Celebrating prematurely. The UK is about to go fascist, Germany is teetering on the brink, and Canada only just dodged a bullet for now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

... Canada only just dodged a bullet for now

By 3 points; less than a basketball goal

And don't forget that Italy, Poland and Hungary are already there and we're about to invade the few countries that went left.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Poland actually got rid of their right wing government in the last election in 2023 and are hopefully dumping the president who's been blocking reform. It can be done.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/the-world-today/2025-03/tusk-eyes-chance-purge-far-right-polands-presidential-election

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

What? No. All our (Canadian) fascists are gonna separate and join the US. Then we’ll be a fascist-free country!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The UK is a bit away from "about to go fascist"

Nigel (Nazi-youth-song-singing, frequent RT guest apologist for Putin & emphatic volunteer for 2nd in line of any future human trumpepede) Farage is as close to actual power as he's ever been—which is not at all.

His party's existence actually potentially helps more reasonable parties because he is splitting the right wing vote

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Labour are going to have to come up with something soon though or things could go bad; I get it's their first year and they're doing unpopular things early so they're not fresh for next election, but they're really unpopular right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 33 minutes ago

It’s a Facebook link… maybe at least give a blurb on why I should click it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago

We don’t have a general election for another 4 years in the UK.

Reform won some council seats and are already having issues.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

Italy has always been a joke, Hungary too

Greece was coming frighteningly close to nazism a few years back

It's so frustrating to see

[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Yes, Italy, Hungary and others are already well down the fascist path. Romania just went fascist. Austria is struggling not to be wholly under the far right's control, depending on a coalition to hold them off. The far right has significant power in the governments of Slovakia, Netherlands, Finland, and Sweden. Portugal and Belgium are also dealing with surging far right movements.

It's absurd to conclude it's over because centrism squeaked through in Canada and Australia. It's like everyone relaxing in 2020 because the US public were sure to see sense under Biden.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

And Portugal overthrew fascism in the 1970s, too...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I heard that Poland is also cheering for some MAGA guy in the next election... Troubling times ahead.

For Romania, there might still be a chance in the run-off. However, the difference between the two candidates was quite large (20% difference; 1.8 million votes). Similarly, the other candidates seemed to have voters that would rather vote for the nazi. Most likely all hope is lost, but that 1% chance is still there.