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The West was moving to the right — and then Donald Trump got elected again

Something is happening among America's allies, and it's a tremendous relief. For some years now, we've seen the MAGA-infused global right gaining a foothold amongst western democracies, largely driven by the same demagogic, nationalist, pseudo-populism that has fueled Donald Trump's dominance on the American right.

Some countries like Hungary have served as a sort of experiment for the kind of post-democratic autocracies dreamt of by the modern right wing in which government co-opts, intimidates and de-legitimizes the political opposition to create an authoritarianism that dominates the culture and the politics without a lot of overt violence.

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

He only got reelected because Democrats seemed to care about twenty other things more than the working class. If they can't figure that out things are only going to get worse. They'll probably get worse no matter what, the only question is who people will blame. It should be the elite class but they'll blame poor voters on the other team and nonvoters instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I feel it's more like a fluke than a rule. We all just got lucky. It's not like any of us are doing anything to prepare for that next election cycle. But I guarantee you that they are.

I seriously still see mailboxes in my neighborhood with flyers about conservative. They treated the election like they were Punk kids promoting their favorite band around town. They mobilized in ways the left only dream of and they didn't vaporize when they lost. They will come back more determined

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

AFD is the biggest party in Germany. National Rally is the biggest party in France. Brothers of Italy is the ruling party in Italy. Reform UK has won a lot of local elections this year.

And as far as I know, the pro-Russian far-right party just won the presidential election in Romania by a large margin.

Support for right-wing parties is larger among young people than among older generations.

I don’t think Trump has postponed Europe’s path toward authoritarian antiglobalism in a meaningful way. I am frustrated about the present situation, and pessimistic about the future.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not even sure what words to use to describe how I feel about those numbers here in Germany. The only way I can see to get out of this is if Trump and his government quickly(!!) "destroy" the US in a major and visible way.

The still ongoing tariff nonsense is one way, but it is not severe enough and Europeans aren't connecting the dots between one incompetent populist (Trump) and the populists they have at home.

I've been hearing about (soon-to-be, if Trump doesn't back down) empty ports, which may lead to empty shelves in supermarkets. If this becomes big enough that social media is full of people showing empty local supermarkets and the regular media has no choice in turning this into a big story, we might have a chance.

Not that I have any real hope this is would actually change anything ...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They will certainly grow if (US) social media keeps dominating voters’ lives. For all the other factors and opposition screw ups, that’s the engine driving their rise.

But yeah, IDK what Salon is on about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

We might actually get world peace, as for peace in America?…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think that - on a global scale - a fair amount of people has cause to be grateful to Trump. Whether it's intended or not, he's tearing down the current geopolitical statu quo and waking up people politically.

On the flipside, I do worry that we narrowly avoided the fire in order to stay in the pan, to subvert the old saying. Over in Canada, we reelected a party that has a lot of flaws, and that their defining benefit is "isn't the conservative right". I'm glad we avoided a conservative sweep, but let's not pretend the shady opposition is significantly better.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

in the future the trope is going to be "I'm going back in time to k--- Tr--p" and everyone has to stop them because it would mean the great global awakening would never happen

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Something, something, Dune.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Great news for 'the rest of the world' but I'd prefer not to deal with this shit here for 4 years as well god dammit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

That demotivator about your role in life serving as a teachable moment to others bites hard

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

*Looks at my fellow Brits*

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You're welcome rest of the world. Now be nice to those of us who have to suffer another 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Be nice to the people threatening to annex and bomb an ally... ? you be nice first.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

As long as you voted against him, yes.

If someone said "oh they're both the same" or "Kamala didn't make her position clear enough on ______" or any of the other excuses, they need to bear the full brunt of their (in)decision.

I've zero sympathy for those fools.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

both parties are the same in many ways doesn't mean I voted for trump I voted Harris. I knew Trump's hate was worse than the Dems obliviousness

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

full brunt of their ~~(in)decision~~stupidity.

Fixed it. :3

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Hopefully, Trump and his pals cause other nations to say "The Heritage Foundation is a terrorist organization." Just because Heritage doesn't directly kill people, doesn't change the fact that they will dismantle the world's universal healthcare, food standards, and more just to make some rich person feel good.

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