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[-] [email protected] 77 points 1 month ago

We really need to move away from the idea that a user having control over his/her device is insecure.

I can use online banking and paypal with windows logged in as administrator or GNU/Linux logged in as root[0], why shouldn't I be able to use google ~~wallet~~ ~~pay~~ wallet with root?

[0] yes I know you shouldn't log in as root, but that doesn't change that you can do it.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

how would an unrooted but old, deprecated version of android be any better than an updated custom rom?

those things baffle me, they just want to take away control dont they?

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

No my friend, our overloads have decided that you shouldn't have control over your desktop either.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I'm not even rooted and gpay keeps breaking on crdroid for me, despite passing safetynet. I've given up and just got another credit card that I can use with my garmin watch that works every time without the hassle.

[-] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'm going to get downvoted into oblivion for this...

I'm sick and tired of reading this same uneducated argument. Your desktop browser and an app on your phone are entirely different paradigms security/development wise.

Your desktop browser is expected to be insecure. Nobody stores data there besides cookies. Most processing happens somewhere else on a server.

Apple and Google have changed this stance entirely because they knew apps could be a lot more powerful if they did. The API's that exist to build apps on your phone are designed around the concept of having a secure, sandboxed environment per app. Apps can run offline and manipulate data quickly because data can be synced down and stored locally. I know it sucks for rooted users, but I don't blame developers for refusing to support those devices one bit.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

We all get that the design paradigm is "a secure, sandboxed environment per app". We just know its a retarded design.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Does rooting your device make you the root user or just gives you access to superuser utilities?

In linux systems the root user shouldn't be used for daily use, you just make an user account with permission to use sudo, doas or su.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

If you root your phone, at least with most tools, you don't become the root user. Apps that use root access have to request it, and you'll have to allow it in the root tool you flashed.

Example pop-up from SuperSU:

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

So google is lying about rooted devices, they seem as secure as an OEM letting an user sideload apps or google themselves letting malware apps inside their store

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

"why shouldn't I be able to use google wallet pay wallet with root?" Because little innocent Google won't be able to build their advertising profile of you. Can't have that!

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