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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Until this thread, I didnt realize so many Lemmy users had an issue with Flying Squid. Perhaps its because I tend to agree with a lot of his takes, but I just find him abrasive at worst. Like...unafraid to not sugarcoat an uncomfortable truth.

Dudes definitely everywhere though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I've gotten into it with them at least once and seen some other questionable takes from them but nothing to a grudge over. They're just opinionated. It's fine. People take shit on the internet too seriously.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

FlyingSquid believes that your internet browsing history should be made public if you are running for any political position. Worst take of all time.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10928568

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

What about for politicians who think your internet history should be public? ;)

NSFW:

https://youtu.be/wqn3gR1WTcA

Skip to the good bit:

https://youtu.be/wqn3gR1WTcA#t=20m56s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They also beleive you shouldn't have a right to privacy and that your trauma does not exist

https://lemmy.world/comment/10906808

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Holy cannoli squid, don't do that to your kid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Rumors of my only having good opinions about everything that everyone should agree with have been greatly exaggerated.

But if I have offended you by being wrong about something, I apologize.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not offended, more just dumbfounded that someone could honestly not see how that is obviously a terrible idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

See above, re me not always having good opinions about everything.

I cannot help being severely flawed. It comes with the whole homo sapiens thing.

But good for you not having any opinions most people in a certain community you're in disagree with. That must be very nice for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So what you are saying (through an incredibly thick layer of condescension) is that you know your belief is wrong. And instead of changing your belief, you would rather maintain it, knowing it is wrong. That's just bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You never asked me if I changed my belief. You decided I still hold it when you said, and I quote:

FlyingSquid believes that your internet browsing history should be made public if you are running for any political position. Worst take of all time.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10928568

Then again, I'm not the Flying Squid expert here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I would have reasonably expected you to lead with that. You no longer belive that all politicians should be required to have their internet browsing history published?

If so, then I congratulate you on the personal growth.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you no longer belive that all politicians should be required to have their internet browsing history published?

You tell me. I've never even met Flying Squid apparently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

WTF are you on about now?

All I'm doing here is spotlighting your terrible opinion, which is relevant in a thread about why people don't like you. If you no longer hold that opinion, then great, that's growth. If you do, then I'm going to continue to refer to it as an example of your shitty takes.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You mean you are spotlighting a terrible opinion I held at the time but didn't ask whether or not I held it until I pointed out you didn't ask.

An opinion I have repeatedly suggested was not a good opinion.

Which, I would say, suggests that whether I say I do or I don't, you don't actually care and are just throwing out a platitude because you would essentially be forced to if I say I don't.

It's fine that you hate me, but just be honest about why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You mean you are spotlighting a terrible opinion I held at the time but didn't ask whether or not I held it until I pointed out you didn't ask.

Do you think it is reasonable to expect anybody referencing your words to reach out to you to ensure your publicly stated option is still up to date?

An opinion I have repeatedly suggested was not a good opinion.

If you know (or knew) it is not a good opinion, then why do you hold (or held) that opinion?

Which, I would say, suggests that whether I say I do or I don't, you don't actually care and are just throwing out a platitude because you would essentially be forced to if I say I don't.

Your presumption of my intention is both incorrect and insulting.

It's fine that you hate me, but just be honest about why.

This is another incorrect presumption of my intention. I have been true and honest in all my statements.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you think it is reasonable to expect anybody referencing your words to reach out to you to ensure your publicly stated option is still up to date?

I do think it is reasonable. Too bad you didn't do that. As you said yourself, "All I’m doing here is spotlighting your terrible opinion, which is relevant in a thread about why people don’t like you."

If you know (or knew) it is not a good opinion, then why do you hold (or held) that opinion?

Because, again, I am a flawed human being. Why can't you accept that? Do you want me to say I'm perfect and wonderful and lovable and brilliant? Because I don't think I'm any of those things, sorry.

Your presumption of my intention is both incorrect and insulting.

Oh the irony.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I do think it is reasonable. Too bad you didn't do that.

That is not a reasonable expectation. You are not so special that it is an offense to reference your words without clearing it with you first. Your comments will always be taken at face value.

As you said yourself, "All I’m doing here is spotlighting your terrible opinion, which is relevant in a thread about why people don’t like you."

I do not understand the relevance of this statement. Please elaborate.

Because, again, I am a flawed human being. Why can't you accept that? Do you want me to say I'm perfect and wonderful and lovable and brilliant? Because I don't think I'm any of those things, sorry.

I do not understand. You have the ability to change your opinions. Why would you post bad ones, knowing they are bad? I cannot comprehend knowing that you are doing something wrong and choosing to do it anyway.

Oh the irony.

Please elaborate. I have not made any presumptions about you. My opinion of you is solely based on the information that you have posted.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You claimed you didn't give your opinion of me, just your opinion of why others hate me.

When I suggested you hated me, you said that wasn't true.

Your whole "I have been honest and open and truthful" thing is a bit undermined by two-faced comments like that.

But sure, asking questions isn't reasonable. We'll go with that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You claimed you didn't give your opinion of me, just your opinion of why others hate me.

I did not claim this. I thought it was quite clear that I thought your take was deplorable.

When I suggested you hated me, you said that wasn't true.

I did not state this. My rebuke of the "you hate me" thing was that you accused me of being dishonest.

You are either misinterpreting or willfully misrepresenting my words.

Frankly, you seem more interested in arguing with this strawman of me that you have created than actually engaging with my points and your intellectual dishonesty has become tiring and boring.

I hope you can one day realize that acknowledging that your opinions are bad does not absolve you of spreading them.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You just make it so irresistible!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you feel that way, why not just block me? Then you'll never see me post again. I'm not forcing anyone to read my comments.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Block you and miss the drama? No thanks!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, well your masochism is not my problem. If you enjoy being around people you hate, go for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll have the last word this time Squid!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cool. We'll see how long it takes you to lose patience with your feigned civility and get your post deleted for insulting me?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha! I knew you'd respond, you can't help it, you have to have the last word, freakin sad bro.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can show you many examples where other people have gotten the last word in conversation with me. But I fail to see why I should indulge someone challenging me not to.

Again, looking forward to you switching over to calling me a "shill" or a "dumb motherfucker." Things I have never called anyone, incidentally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh were either of those comments to you? Do you not understand how to read a modlog?

I caught the ban for calling you out and linking to the thread where you refused to acknowledge that maybe having naked pictures of children on a phone might not be the best idea. Not for calling you a shill or a dumb motherfucker.

Now go away little Squid and go waste someone elses time, I look forward to reading the response I know you're going to type out to this comment cause that's your thing. You have to have the last word.

edit: a word

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

where you refused to acknowledge that maybe having naked pictures of children on a phone might not be the best idea.

I still refuse to acknowledge it, and multiple other people in this very thread are calling the other person complaining about that a prude and saying I was quite reasonable.

So congratulations on that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And here we are in a comment chain with multiple people talking about how you're a condescending dick and will never concede a single point but will double down and you're doing that exact thing. Thanks for responding exactly as everyone knew you would.

"So congratulations on that."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I learned it by watching you, dad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've never seen them be out of pocket, just everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seems like he's gotten a little better lately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its going to sound silly, but I can't get past how confident he is and how quickly he posts. Noone makes good arguments with that little thought. At least thats my current theory on why he bothers me.

Who knows though maybe I'm projecting.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I also get annoyed at lightning fast responses. And I agree 100%

It takes no time or energy to come up with one answer to a question. I'm fact, I think most humans' brains are built for snap decisions like that.

But to weigh multiple answers against each other, poking holes in the answers you are most inclined to believe? That takes thought. And if someone is not doing that for you, then odds are, their brain is simply letting them take the discussion less seriously than your brain (or your morality) allows.

So I think you have every right to feel frustrated at such behavior.