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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

The even brighter side of it is that it should be easier to spot these companies when job hunting.

IMO: Demand higher wages and iron clad contracts from them because they already demonstrated how they feel about paying people.

They’ll surely cut anyone they can again as soon as they can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yet their reputations will somehow never return...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Very expected. It's fine. I'll come back at 10 times my previous rate. And you'll thank me for it. Fucking chads.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago

no surprise

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 hours ago

Deserved and expected

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago

thats because the main peddlers are the ceo/csuites of these tech companies, and the customers arnt people like you or me, its other corporate heads. in case of palintir it would be the government.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

The BBC report cited mainly focused on the marketing industry, with the fixing mistake people being the copywriters. This gives a strong vibe of Madman, where you have the "old-fashioned" copywriters and the tension between market research.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 13 hours ago

Let them burn.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 106 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

AI as it exists today is only effective if used sparingly and cautiously by someone with domain knowledge who can identify the tasks (usually menial ones) that don't need a human touch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

Some good examples from the bookkeeping/accounting industry is automating the matching of payments to the invoices and using AI to extract and process invoices.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This 1000x. I am a PHP developer, I found out about two months ago that the AI assistant is included in my Jetbrains subscription (All pack, it was a separate thing before). And recently found about Junie, their AI agent that has deep thinking (or whatever the hell it is called). I tried it the same day to refactor part of my test that had to migrated to stop using a deprecated function call.

To my surprise, it required only very minor changes, but what would've taken me about 3 hours was done in half an hour. What I also liked was that it actually asked if it can run a terminal command to verify thr test results and it went back and fixed a broken test or two.

Finally I have faith in AI being useful to programmers.

For a test, I took our dev exam (for potential candidates) and just sent it to see what it does just based on the document, and besides a few mistakes it even used modern tools and not some 5 year old stuff (like PSR standards) and implemented core systems by itself using well known interfaces (from said PSRs). I asked it to change Dependency Injection to use Symfony DI instead of the self-made thing, and it worked flawlessly.

Of course, the code has to be reviewed or heavily specified to make sure it does what it is told to, but all in all it doesn't look like just a gimmick anymore.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

it doesn't look like just a gimmick anymore.

It still does 😞

[–] [email protected] 24 points 14 hours ago

Absolutely, this matches my experience. I think this is also the experience of most coders who willingly use AI. I feel bad for the people who are forced to use it by their companies. And those who are laid off because of C-levels who think AI is capable of replacing an experienced coder.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago

AI: The new outsourcing?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Companies with stupid leaders deserve to fail.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Well what ends up happening is some company will have a CEO.

He'll make all the stupid decisions. But they're only stupid from everybody ELSES perspective.

From his perspective, he uses AI, tanks the companies future in the chase of large short term stock gains. Then he gives himself a huge bonus, leaves the company, gets hired somewhere else, and gets to say "See how that company is failing without me? That's because I bring value to the brand."

So he gets hired at the neeeext place, meanwhile that first company is failing because of the actions of a CEO no longer employed there, and whom bailed because he knew what was coming.

These actions aren't stupid. They're plotted corruption for the benefit of one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

No that never happens /S

I used to work with a supplier that hired a former Monsanto executive as their CEO. When his first agenda came out I told their sales team he was an idiot and to have fun looking for a new job a few months.

The CEO bailed after 2 years to start his own "consulting business."

1 year later the company lost 75% of their market share and was laying off people left and right. They are still afloat barely.

After a couple years "consulting", the CEO went to another company in 2023. He didn't bounce fast enough and got caught on this one. He was fired 2 weeks ago and the company shut their doors except for a handful of staff to facilitate the firesale of the companies assets.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

What's really stupid about this cycle is that some of these fail-upward executives genuinely believe the crap they're spewing. Weirdly, I think I respect the grifting executives more

Edit: by grifting executives, I mean the ones who participate in that cycle you describe, and are aware of the harms they cause in their wake, but don't care because they've gotten good at knowing when to skip out

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

McNamara fallacy at its finest. They hear figures and potential savings and then jump into the hype without considering the context. It is the same when they heard of lean manufacturing or Toyota way. Companies thought it is cost saving rather than process improvement.

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