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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I thought it was the onion for a second there, but nope it's t a real article

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Everybody deserves protection, says the governor only protecting the elites.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Excited to see a huge investment in PR for corporate leadership in the next few years. Like Shark Tank and Undercover Boss weren't saccharine enough. You're going to get the Full Israel of media coverage soon.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

One murder has put it all in to stark relief for many where the loyalties of law enforcement lie; and yet i cant help but think no one will remember who was on the side of the working class come election season

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

no one will remember who was on the side of the working class come election season

To be fair, at the very most 5% of national level general elections feature a candidate who's not an enemy of the working class.

Because probably the richest political party in the world is the least bad of two options and blatantly favor donors over grassroots in the primaries that they are somehow still allowed to be the arbiters of.

It's like pitting 1989 Mike Tyson against 1989 Mohammed Ali, except Ali gets a head start where Tyson has to stand completely still, a loaded shotgun, and is the match referee.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which party represents workers again?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They could have voted for Cynthia Nixon.

New York wanted these assholes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They could have voted for Cynthia Nixon.

Yes, and they should have.

New York wanted these assholes.

Probably not, no.

You see, propaganda is much more effective than most people know or are willing to admit, and New York, being the largest media market in North America, is a very clear example of that.

You don't have to be an idiot to be swayed by effective messaging, and messaging doesn't have to make sense to be effective.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

You don’t have to be an idiot to be swayed by effective messaging

Actually a fair and salient point. You're not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

CEOs and executives aren’t the target of the anger, it’s sociopathic CPAs (Cunts, Pricks, and Arseholes). It doesn’t help that to succeed as an executive one must embrace being a sociopath.

The easiest path to remove the targets they’ve painted on themselves is to cease being, and behaving like, sociopaths.

More broadly, we need to stop incentivising, rewarding, and normalising sociopathy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

The easiest path to remove the targets they’ve painted on themselves is to cease being, and behaving like, sociopaths.

Or perhaps the aristocracy just builds another ring of fences and hires another battalion of guards.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I stopped at "cease being".

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

Funny how it's all about protecting people when a rich guy gets shot but not when any of us gets shot.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago

Class solidarity for the elites; rugged individualism for the little people.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Corporate executives convince themselves they only do their job. Their action are evil but they are rewarded for it, so much so that "evil has become banal".

Recently reminded of the truth, they consider that "demonization". Why should people leave you alone if you're killing us & the planet?

Even if "you're just doing your job", it still affect us personally and the law will either not be upholded or defend the right of the people. The only way then is steel.

I'm dumb: I don't see the complexity in Luigi's action. I only see the truth: the only action that changed something after decades of non-violent political activism was bullets in a CEO.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What did it change? Perhaps more people are becoming aware of the scope of the problem but from a practical perspective I don't think any difference has been made up to this point.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"We protect everybody on the streets of New York, not just CEOs," Hochul said. "Everybody deserves the protection of our law enforcement."

New York City averages over 1 murder per day. Weird how the CEO seems to be the only one getting any attention whatsoever, since everyone is getting equal protection.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Besides that, law enforcement doesn't protect anyone. Didn't protect Brian Thompson, did it?

Law enforcement is reactive. They show up after the crime has been committed to take notes (incorrectly) and maybe arrest the wrong person. Oh, except when patrol officers are running speed traps so they can intimidate the undesirables and shake them down for fines (which are regressive), maybe abuse some authority (or just make shit up) in order to provoke an unnecessary arrest.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Demonization of corporate executives is not new.”

I wonder why that is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of a great way to put it I read somewhere on Lemmy the other day:

Nobody is vilifying billionaires. It's just not possible. You can't vilify someone when they're already a villain

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'll socialize their security but they won't socialize medicine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Free market for thee, but not for me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

@Lettuceeatlettuce @Schmoo "everyone needs protection" apparently not people on health insurance

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

“Demonization of corporate executives is not new”

Right - they’ve been demons for a long time, and we literally had to invent the FTC to curb these robber barons’ lust for power over 100 years ago. They’ve been working steadily ever since to erode that protection and exploit us even further. Demons, the lot of ‘em.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How stupid can they get? All of this is reinforcing the perception (read "fact") that violence against corporate executives has significant impact and instantly makes you famous (or infamous). Is what they are doing really the best course of action given the oversupply of people in America with easy access to guns that also feel powerless and disenfranchised? Anyone can see how this has the makings of becoming a recurring thing.

I am not weeping over it, but it is a little shocking to see how poorly they are handling all of it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think of the CEOs. Think about them when buying a gun. Think about them when sharpening a hatchet. Think of them, when building a guillotine...

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Why are CEOs getting special treatment? don't they already get paid enough to afford personal security?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Or they could, you know, just stop being dicks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Its_scared!.meme

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

So these virtual meetings are held any time anyone in New York gets murdered, right? No?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Gosh, where and when is this group of 175 people going to be?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone considering running for high office, and looking for a hook to run on? Run for the governor of NY on a platform of giving Luigi Mangione a full and unconditional pardon.

You would win in a landslide.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I honestly don't think this would work, too many older people vote and they are not generally in agreement with the working class plights of modern times. They think we should still make a nickle while they make a buck because they got there first.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My mother, who literally works at a hospital fighting with insurance companies all day long to get things approved, "doesn't understand" why this happened in the first place, and thinks all the people who are pleased about it are "sad and pathetic"

Personally I think she fully understands why people cheer it on, she just chooses to ignore it because things aren't bad enough for her yet so CLEARLY everyone else is overreacting....

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

They can do that lying down. In the dirt. In a moisture-sealed box. In perpetuity.

That way, that money can actually do something for those actually living life. 🤌🏽

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