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Should all posts include a thought, opinion, or summary from the OP? Is a post title usually enough?

If you appreciate posts that just a link to a video, news article, blog post, or website with no post text by the OP, why do you like them?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Link, the reason it was posted and what is the outcome you're expecting by posting. That should start the conversation while avoiding that click-baitish feeling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Not even a single-sentence description? I'm against. No way I'm clicking a mystery link to see what's at the end of it. That's how you get on a list.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I don't think anyone gets to decide what a person "Should" be doing, who are these "should-ers" that get to make these decisions?

It's like putting a dead cow in a museum and calling it art. SHOULD it be art just because it's there? Or SHOULD there be some explanation or clue as to what the "artist" who put the cow there is trying to say? It's something I've thought about in relation to what constitutes art, and what doesn't.

My point here is just that in my view, it's helpful to have some more input rather than just a link when it's not apparent why the link matters or might be significant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I like at least some topic discussion points for the community to interact with. Sometimes it seems like a post is just a cross reference to a Reddit post. The organic Lemmy content reminds me of the old Reddit days and brings me joy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

An opinion from OP is the last thing I want to see in the post body. If you want use it as a summary for the post, but save your idiotic opinions for the comments.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

It depends on the community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Only if it's self-explanatory, otherwise it could be anything. It could still be anything, but I'm usually less suspicious if there's some effort on the OP's part with the description and such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

As long as it's not a link to a video, it's not too annoying.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Please add some description.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well, lemmy is supposed to be a link aggregator, that's what posts are supposed to be.

I actually really enjoyed reddit back when it was just links and text posts. As soon as they allowed image (and worse, video) posts, content quality took a nose dive.

So I'd actually would love if lemmy would have options to disable these on a community level (I think you can already disable it on an instance level).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

If I can work with them, that's what matters to me.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

I am not clicking a random link without some explanation of what it is. I suspect most people are similar in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like when the body has a summary of the contents behind the link, or even a personal opinion of OP on the topic or how they found the link etc.

It's still each users choice if they want to read it or go straight to the link.

IMO that's an advantage over the alien site.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Depends on the sort of link.

If it's an image and doesn't produce a thumbnail for some reason, kind of bummed 'cause I seem to run into those often on mobile & don't like the feel of bouncing between apps/tabs on mobile as much. Similar situation with videos tbh, except add in that I don't like listening to videos on my phone without headphones & I typically don't have headphones on me since I'm not using my phone for that sorta thing often.

If it's an article and the title's simply the headline of it, I don't mind too much. A summary or some quoted parts of the main point of the article are appreciated, especially if it's from a paywalled site.

If it's from an unfamiliar site with few indicators of what's up with the link then I really would like the OP to indicate wtf they're posting a link to in the title & body text 'cause otherwise I'm inclined to think it's spam or worse, and generally that tends to be the case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Should all posts include a thought, opinion, or summary from the OP?

Everybody should make some real effort to write things that are worth writing.

Automated posts, low effort posts, and all such nonsense should never be written nor read.

Soon enough, it will become difficult to decide between human and bot. We want to stay human and be recognized as human.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I generally use the body text field for a snippet of the page I'm linking to, usually a paragraph or two that I felt were important takeaways from the article (so that people who generally only skim headlines may still see something useful from the article).

If I'm linking to an article, I personally don't like putting my own opinion in the OP, itself. I'd rather it be a top-level comment, instead, as it feels like grandstanding on somebody else's work when it's in the OP body.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, the way you described is what I'd also recommend, and I try to do the same.

For articles, try to stick to pulling out information from the article and adding little to it. I don't feel that good having "my comment" at the top of everyone else's, except when I add guiding direction for discussion (What are your thoughts?, Keep it civil, What would you do?, etc.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Depends on the subreddit, but unless it's an entirely opinion-based community then I prefer an objective summary or nothing at all. If it's a news subreddit, for instance, I want the article as the main post and if you have an opinion then put it as a comment. This goes for text posts too, I get annoyed when people make Ask Lemmy threads with their own answer in the main post.

My main problem is that it transforms the thread from being about the link (or question) to being about the OP's specific opinion, because they are inextricably linked and there's no way to respond to their opinion without making a top-level comment. If the OP simply left an opinionated comment instead, it could have a proper discussion thread like every other commenter, preventing the top-level comments being flooded with replies to OP's opinion.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I think a post body should usually be empty if it's a link, or at most should provide a summary or key points.

If you as the OP want to editorialise or provide your opinion on the article, do that in a top-level comment. And most of the time, you should do that. If you're posting it, you probably have an opinion, so get the conversation started by sharing it!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

damn, netiquette pro over here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

This probably the best approach, otherwise we end up with essays about their grandmother's love for certain recipes and the inspiration that their cooking was.

Plus, half the time people just want to share something cool they found.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather avoid editorialization. Would rather have opinions go in a top-level comment.

I think that it's useful from a context standpoint if the subtitle or first sentence or paragraph of an article provides a good summary of what the article is about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hadn’t considered that. I often do appreciate replies more than the OP’s take.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

OPs always have the worst takes.

Except you, you seem alright, OP.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I usually block people who post like that since they post like bots usually. You can’t tell me someone is reading 30 articles in 10 minutes and comprehending them all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

I kind of prefer people provide context for a link before I jump into it, especially with spam converging on the fediverse and all

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

It depends on what it is. For things like headline news items, I'm fine with just a link and maybe the intro or summary paragraph in the body. But there are some things people post that make me think "Okay, so what," and it would be nice to get OP's thoughts on why it matters.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I find them very annoying, especially the ones that include "a discussion on hacker news", I'm here because I want to have a discussion here. Unless the link is a video, song, picture, etc. This is mainly regarding news stuff.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Oh yeah, I think I blocked the bot reposting from hacker news, and it's made Lemmy better.