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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Depends on the loved one, tbh ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as an "amount of people". It's "number of people". And the question given is basic game theory, just worded to be nasty.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I think it's "amount" after the trolley is done squishing them into goo

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This guy is already implying that youll like it better if 3 randoms die as 1 loved one, he's choosing for you already in the explanation ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, would work better if there was one stranger in the middle

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

More challenging if there's only one person on the middle tracks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

As many frags as possible

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

with a knife or whatever

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Tit. For. Tat.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

you find some third way thats not the bad outcomes that are suggested. Theres always possibilities in life and people who say there are not are generally trying to coerce you.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I ban trolleys. Everyone walks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

pull my gun, kill the other person and move the lever, as far i can know that person is the one this whole thing upfamily up

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is only superficially a prisoner's dilemma. In a true one, you cannot get a better result for yourself no matter what the other person does, but here if you assume the other person pulled the lever, there is no reason to pull the lever yourself.

To fix this, you can have 4 relatives on the trolley, and 5 of the opposite faction way back on the middle track. Both do nothing, 1 relative of each is killed. One guy switches the lever, their relatives are all fine, other guy loses 5. Both switch, crash with all 8 relatives on the trolley dead.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see what you're trying to do and you're not necessarily wrong, but you're kinda perpetuating the attitude that inspired someone to make this meme in the first place

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I follow. Should this meme's creator not have been inspired?

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Touche. But no, my point was more of a haphazard reflection on how both the Trolley Problem and Prisoner's Dilemma are (by design) built on the idea of reducing human life and/or morality and empathy down to a math problem. It is a method of thought that has its purposes, sure, but I think too many people make that their default setting, which makes dehumanization more common, even if subconsciously. Idk man, I'm going through some stuff

Edit: Fixed a pretty bad typo

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Given that this problem is given during corporate interviews ... it probably screens for the requisite level of sociopathy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well obviously you should pull the lever once the front wheels past the split but before the rear wheels cross it, so that trolley gets off the rails. This way everybody has the chance to survive and you have defensible position during inevitable court hearing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How much did I like that one guy really.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Are the 5 people on the opposong trolley worthy of death? Will killing them outweigh losing my loved ones?

Or is the one loved one ill save my really hot 1st cousin?

Because with the rest of the family dead, we can live happily ever after without any annoying incest complaints.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

เฒ โ _โ เฒ 

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yell "Jump!"

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