flying_sheep

I'm 35, and I'm perfectly able to engage with the thought process behind the opinion, no matter how radical. All they want is to be treated with respect.

Contrast with “real adults” who e.g. continue to trash the planet because they can't even think of slightly decreasing the amount by which they enrich themselves. Those I don't respect. They are the real radicals.

If a 15 year old says “so much good can happen when a few billionaires kick the bucket”, I'm right there with them.

Have you heard about that wild thing you can do called “communication”

It doesn't. read the first words behind the link you posted:

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Here is the actual one: https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/tutorials/packaging-projects/

Uv and pip do the same thing, uv is just faster.

Hatch has the same role as Poetry or tox: managing environments for you.

Applications should be packaged properly, in a self contained installer for exactly this demographic. It's not Python's fault that this isn't common practice.

Sure, there was some hyperbole. Some people need some specific setuptools plugin or something. Almost nobody.

It's not a standard, it's built on standards.

You can also use Poetry (which recently grew standard metadata support) or plain uv venv if you want to do things manually but fast.

Oh no

It's fixed, and the python version had nothing to do with it. Just use hatch

No it's not. E.g. nobody who starts a new project uses setup.py anymore

Ooo damn that sounds exactly what I'd like to try.

On the other hand I feel like I'm too old for this shit. My system works fine, I understand everything, and things rarely break and never in an unrecoverable way.

Don't think I haven't tried that.

I also tried the debug menu, xkill using the window ID, … it's immortal.

Tbf, thanks to X11 Linux isn't safe from stuff like that.

When I use my VR glasses, Steam sometimes creates an uncloseable X window that isn't attached to any process. I don't think even killing XWayland gets rid of it.