Grifters grifting grifters lol.
this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2024
398 points (97.6% liked)
politics
19239 readers
2259 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Republicans: The only thing that can make us lose is election interference.
Elon: You have my sword.
Republicans: Wait, no...
I’ve been waiting for the moment these two egos clash with each other and the ultimate breakup plays out in front of everyone.
I just hope it’s enough to be the final nail in the Trump campaign’s coffin, if it hasn’t already imploded enough on its own.
I'll be happy enough if its "just" Elon who loses out.
I suspect that will happen after election day (3 days from now).
Trump leading in election betting odds? Feeling sick
Trump and Musk probably just bought up enough to put them ahead.
I honestly think that’s true, plus faked polls, burn a few mail boxes that don’t matter. Just need enough weird things to happen to “credibly” claim voter fraud and give the state legislatures room to avoid certifying their elections.
Don’t get so stressed about completely made up numbers. Save it for Tuesday, then stress :)
Focus that stress energy and go volunteer!
Nah. I like to get a good head of steam on my stress before I go off the rails. Much more spectacular.
Not going to spend a second trying to find the answer, but I wonder if the odds-makers are distinguishing between who wins the election and who is the next leader of the United States. Because those may be different things.
.
Betting odds measure the vibes of people who gamble. Not exactly reliable
It’s a good thing that Musk is only a hereditary meritocrat, a person of mediocre ability able to buy his way into the ranks of the great, and having been surrounded by claques of sycophants for his entire life, having lost any capacity for self-criticism. So, of course when he put his visionary genius to work getting Trump elected, it went as well as you’d expect.
The guy who blew vast sums of campaign money on fake canvassing (and vast sums of his own money on Twitter) is who Trump plans to put in charge of government waste. Let that sink in.
Well he also wants to put anti vaxxer RFK Jr in a prominent role overseeing public health, so there's that too. Though I thought the role of Secretary of Transportation would go to Elon.
well let's not also forget the amount of taxpayer money dumped into Tesla/spacex/starlink! the guy is the biggest welfare leach, and most of his ideas were stolen from someone else!
so basically a welfare queen whining about "excess government spending". How ironic.
They can all eat shit and die.
Hopefully as soon as possible.
It always cracks me up when people say private companies can do the job better with less regulation. Most businesses fail and the news is constantly full of stories about fraud.
Just gotta work in a big enough company to realize that it's no more efficient than the public sector. Compared to a business with 50 employees and a single boss? Sure, private sector is much more agile. Public services in the US have over 20 millions employees with about 3 millions for the federal government, what company has that many so we can compare apples to apples? Hint: None, Walmart is the biggest at 2 million employees.
And more often than not, these companies rely on handouts from the government anyway.
Especially if they are rich enough to buy the necessary politicians. Like Phoney Stark is.
Especially these people indeed, it's one of the reasons they get so rich in the first place.
And toxic shit and doors flying off of planes and stuff. But I guess the top ones got a little more money out of it for a quarter or two I guess...
I love when republicans think they are the smartest people on Earth as they stab themselves in the face. They literally deserve what they do to themselves.
I find your imagery accurate and disturbing.
And I wish the GOPers would do a lot more of the "Stabbing themselves in the face" thing. It would keep them from bothering us.
it would be better if the just stopped acting so weird
Elon Musk forgot the formula for success he used in all his other businesses:
-
Buy a bussiness made by smart people
-
Pour money into it
-
Don't fuck it up too much
Too bad he's bad at doing even that
It's that last one that's a real doozy for him
Leon Skum:
-
~~Buy a bussiness made by smart people~~ I smart, I make business
-
Pour money into it - yes
-
Don't fuck it up too much - YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR
And the Trump formula:
-
Get someone gullible supporting you
-
Use him up
-
Blame him for everything and throw him under the bus
I can't wait for this to happen to Elmo Muskrat.
When is he going to do points #2 and #3 for Twitter
Point 2 was him buying the company. Now we're on step 2.5: cost savings to make it profitable. Unfortunately, Shitter will never be profitable now that they've fucked up #3 and destroyed the brand and are working on turning shitter into a Nazi bar.
Eh. I’m honestly pretty convinced at this point that the ultimate intent was never really to make money with Twitter.
Sure, he would have liked to recoup his costs. But at the end of the day, eel on musk paid 40something billion dollars to buy one of the most prolific social media companies in the history of social media. It’s just a big megaphone with speakers in everyone’s smartphones. It’s a propaganda device. He is openly using it to try to swing public opinion towards Trump (amongst various other things), and has been since about 6 months after he bought it and “cleaned house”. He’s using it to try to directly affect the result of the election. That’s it. That’s his plan. And he thinks he’ll become cemented into Trump’s inner circle if he pulls it off.
He spent 40B mostly of other people’s money. His liability is like 12B. The more interesting question is why various stodgy bankers gave him the other 28B.
The more interesting question is why various stodgy bankers gave him the other 28B.
Because that's how the system works.
If you have $5,000 and owe 15,000, you're in debt and most likely have to work a shitload of hours in a dead end job for the rest of your life in a futile attempt to make ends meet.
If you have 3 billion dollars and owe 30 billion, you're a billionaire and get to do whatever you want consequence free, including breaking all of the laws.
Point 1 was him buying the company though. He has not poured any money into it, as you say he has done quite the reverse
Note that when people say "pour money into a company" they mean "invest wisely in the parts of the company that work" not "buy a thing with a big price tag" those are two completely separate things
You and I understand that, but I bet PG doesn't.
Hes been high on his own supply for too long. He thinks everything he touches will succeed just because.
Well put. I never anticipated this.
The New Republic - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)
Information for The New Republic:
Wiki: reliable - There is consensus that The New Republic is generally reliable. Most editors consider The New Republic biased or opinionated. Opinions in the magazine should be attributed.
MBFC: Left - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America
Media Bias Fact Check | bot supportSearch topics on Ground.News
https://newrepublic.com/post/187814/donald-trump-panics-elon-musk-voting-plan